People are ofc free to dismiss any opinion they want. My opinion is based on having fun in current WM. If someone doesn’t find current WM fun, course they will dismiss it. No prob. Except, I don’t see the point in living in the past. Old WPvP in retail is gone forever.
I disagree that an actual WPvPer is someone that played WPvP before Legion. That is just elitist nonsense imo. My definition: an actual WPvPer is anyone going out there killing Horde for the fun of it. But I wouldn’t feel the need to put the word ‘actual’ before it… that’s just big ego. I’d use the word ‘True’
Classic WPvP might bring back WPvP community, it’s up to the players. But the community aspect you talk about is something that you and yours liked. Not everyone necessarily feels the same way. Just because you miss WPvP community, doesn’t mean WM is a failure. Plenty are having fun in WM killing random Horde or Alliance.
If there was such a big demand for WPvP community, it would happen regardless of sharding. The community players would find a way to make it work. I see same players in non BfA zones all the time, sharding is different there. Plenty opportunity to kill same players, and be killed by them. Up to the players. BfA zones are gankfests, fun for some. Non BfA zones, community potential.
You are in minority though and there is nothing wrong with that.
Just understand that since you were not there, even if you like current warmode you can not dismiss the past that people who were there, say was better.
I am not offended and just responding, that’s discussion. It’s interesting to test elitists, hateists, complainists, etc. opinions. They don’t usually stand up to logic.
For example, they expect their point of view to not be dismissed, but any view that conflicts with theirs is auto dismissed. I find that interesting, and fun to challenge.
Yep, I’ll give classic a try. I like how we can have two different wpvp experiences, wm and classic, and players can pick their pref.
Seems like wpvp guilds can be a thing in classic, but will depend on the players ofc.
I see what yer doin… I would only contact support if I wanted something fixed. I accept rare fps drop in exchange for better looking gfx at normal fps 99% of the time at higher settings.
Players that complain of lag without contacting support, are obviously not interested in a fix. Maybe it’s unfixable for them because of the excess player addons issue - support can say.
Easier to just blame servers tho, who needs evidence right? A high % of people will believe the complainer regardless, and they get to feel vindicated. Never mind that the actual issue is something else that Blizz can’t control, yet gets the blame.
Yep, time will tell. I predict complaints, likely based around it being newer tech simulating vanilla, rather than it actually being vanilla. But wpvpers seem motivated for wpvp guilds on classic, could be really good.
Difference is, fps issue is easy to fix and I wasn’t complaining. Lag issue isn’t easy to fix, could have multiple potential causes, and tech support are qualified to help. But people complain without contacting support, and just make stuff up about server issue.
Make stuff up… of course. Entire servers complain at the same time but we make it up. I noticed the world boss was being fought loot delay the entire it was being fought, then magically over when it stopped/was done.
A player that actually went through support process got the explanation below. Excess players in zone with data collecting addons causing flood, before Blizz, not Blizz’s server.
Without this info, and knowing nothing about the topic, players blame the server… ye, that’s called making stuff up. I am no expert, but I believe Blizz over forum posters.
However… the addon issue sounds like something Blizz would fix, if it was affecting enough players. I assume they can just disable that type of data collecting addon. Or maybe would be better if disabled only if causing lag on a per shard basis. Or maybe it’s not a big enough issue for enough players.
I don’t get the issue, and maybe others don’t too - but they ofc won’t come to forum just to say “I don’t lag”. Blizz have the data at their end, and they know the scale of the issue. If it was serious enough it would affect their income and you can be sure it would be fixed or reduced.
Either you lie OR you have never experience a shard where french/germans/russians and the rest gets put together in a shard like for BATTLE OF NAZJATAR.
Wtf, dont need evidence for that? Me and the other people i have done the event with + the general chat always talk about the lag or spells taking a while to go off + when the event start. Because most lazy people use LFG
Ye, it’s caused by data collecting addons of all players in zone. The more players, the more addons, the more network flooding, and the further you are from server, the worse affected.
I don’t get unplayable lag myself, I am either lucky or just not on at peak time. I have seen players complain in chat about lag, while me and others didn’t lag. My ‘no evidence’ comment related to me being called a liar, but also players blaming naz battle lag on Blizz servers with zero evidence.
Blizz have stated the issue, addons, and that’s what needs fixed. It doesn’t impact everyone the same, so it’s up to blizz to figure out if enough are affected to ban these data collecting addons.
i totally agree with you , i play on kazzak aswell and its indeed that , as a horde its atleast 5 alliance vs 1 horde atleast , and they still get that nasty 25% bonus while we get nothing.
The fun part is : They changed the battle for nazjatar event for servers who has the same amount of people on their shard , however this is not longer the case , if we ever want a chance of winning the pvp battle at all there is no option to transfer to another shard.
