When are you fixing War-Mode?

You are calling Blizz liars too? Devinee got this response from support.

Nah, make me lol.

Not if, your survey is biased. You would know that if you knew even the slightest of how proper surveys are done.

And yes, surprise, everyone’s biased to some degree. Doesn’t mean that forum complaints have to be all useless, it’s just something a dev would have to keep in mind.

But if you would have some clue about psychology, anthropology and whatnot (yeah all that matters in games) then you would know that getting balanced wpvp shards would be something to aim for. And for that matter, be careful with kill x amount of players quests.

No, it’s not a source of information. Your survey is simply pointless, from start to finish.

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Whether you like it or not, the survey responses are opinions of WM forum users. They are as valid or invalid as forum posts.

Exactly, and same goes for the survey.

Thats just it though, its JUST a survey off a part of the people who frequent the WM forum. I didnt take the survey and Im sure a lot of others didnt as well - My point being 82 people (last I checked) is not a big enough pool of players to claim objectivity or truth from such a survey

You raised a good point. But it works both ways.

If 82 survey responses are too small a pool for objectivity and truth, you are also saying 82 forum posts are too small.

There’s been roughly 80 new WM forum topics in the last month posted by unique users (we presume). Taken as a whole, they are not objective
 based on your statement on the WM survey. Each individual topic, will usually have nowhere near 82 unique replies from unique users. If we were to take the past 30 days WM topics and replies, and remove the duplicates, we would not be left with much objectivity.

It’s true. Neither the WM forum or the WM survey are a big enough source of information for objectivity and truth. They are both a guide, and should be used together as an indication of overall WM opinion, rather than actual overall opinion.

my point is, the warmode forum on its own isnt a big enough player pool to decide the game on, as not enough people frequent it, and no it isnt enough of an indication even, as the player pool is too small.

Correct, WM forum on its own is not enough. But we have limited data, and the WM forum + survey are all we have to gauge opinion. As long as they are not taken as representing all WM players.

You know, when you are on a shard where it is heavily unbalanced in numbers, you can go back to Org. Turn WM off, relog, Turn it on and port back, and then you will be on a new shard. Maybe that can help a bit, but chances are it could be worse.

No, just you. And if you believe a GM knows anything about Blizzards Network
 you should really stop posting


And my fix for the bonus problem still stands as posted above.

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I’m a liar? When all I did was quote Blizz support? Yet Blizz are not liars, even though I was quoting them? Nice logic.

If you knew that data collecting addons can sync with other players addons, the addons explanation from Blizz might be more believable to you.

I’m not a network pro, but I know about bottlenecks.

They know more than you, obviously :smiling_face:

Or
 are you saying you have more access to Blizz information than a Blizz employee?

I see no bonus fix above, did you dream it?

They can’t fix war mode because war mode was what broke it in the first place
 it is essentially a feature that is not a feature as you already had the choice of pvp server or pve server.

now you have full raids of pve players entering onto pvp servers just to get that 10-30% bonus.

Cross-realm and sharding are what you should be attacking, not war mode.

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I don’t mind being outnumbered, but what annoys me is how inconsistent warmode is. I never get put in a shard with equal sides. I’m either getting ganked by 50 people or ganking enemies with 50 people.
At least with the old system I knew that I would be outnumbered by knowing the population of the realm I was on.

There is no fix required for imbalance
 because Blizz designed variable player distribution into every zone. It’s deliberate.

That means, even if zone shard is 50/50, you will never have guaranteed faction balance in any particular subzone. You are however guaranteed variable faction balance in every subzone.

It’s deliberate design, that is WPvP. We have arena/bg for fixed number faction balance.

Hey Vaeyn, do you think that classic release will affect wm in general?

Nah, not in general. It’s gonna be good to have the choice of two different types of WPvP!

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Yeah, because useless response from support that it’s of a standard for every weak support is what I want to get. Yes I’m resetting my router, yes I have opened ports, yes I have checked NAT type, yes I did that, I’ve done that.

Every other service, including WoW minus large scale pvp like Battle for Nazjatar, is working without any issues - also other MMOs with high player count. And it’s not like WoW didn’t have large scale battles before - it had! and they worked, what a miracle!

Every clash of high number of people ends up in a lagfest which really looks like a server, not a client issue. Yes I checked my connection, it works fine, ping doesn’t even change from being green. But the response from any activity - movement, activating skill, capping flag, etc. is delayed. Every Battle for Nazjatar is a spam on general chat asking “do you also have lags?”.

Something clearly went wrong and dismissing this issue with “bUt I dOn’T hAvE lAgS” is not helpful at all and only infuriates the rest.

Blizz told someone else via support ticket, that it was players in zone with data collecting addons syncing and data flooding before Blizz, not the servers.

Still on Blizzard’s end to fix it and not our or my fault at all. Also data collecting is hard to ban, WoWhead is relient on it to give accurate droprates.

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