Think about this now.
During Voljin’s rebellion against former Warchief Garrosh Hellscream.
It would not have been possible without the Tauren. Executing the leader of the Tauren for trying to save the last remnants of the “Honour” of the Horde.
Will have greatly weakened the Horde during a time of War.
Can you see the problem now?
The Alliance and some old Orcs saved Baine from execution. A leader unites their people gives them direction - purpose - focus. Without a leader the unity and everything else goes ultimately weakening others.
Had the Blight Bomb succeeded then the Alliance would not have shown the Horde mercy. After the death of Zandalari Troll King Rhastakhan the Horde were being soundly defeated. SI7 reports to some of the Alliance leadership proves this.
But the Alliance leadership were ordered NOT to press the attack. Since that would make the Alliance no different to the Horde and it’s Warchief.
You claim to be passionate for the Horde. But what you push for will do ruin the very Horde that you campaign for.
Then the war would have ended instantly since all alliance leaders would be dead. the alliance isnothing without their OP leaders.
No I simply reject traitor leaders that is all. If you are friends with Anduin and Jaina you are not true Horde.
It would have forced the Alliance to completely stopped holding back. As the loss of the war would be extinction. Horde are not known for mercy. Horde demonstrated this when they burned Teldrassil - sacrificed and murdered Draenai children and their other atrocities.
The Alliance could have continued the slaughter of the Zandalari but left after the job was done. The death of Rhastakhan.
Also Sylvannas would have lost the backing of the Horde. As others will follow the Tauren. Older Horde will remember they fought against Arthas but now they became the same thing they fought against.
You are short sighted.
A divided Horde in times of war will have been wiped out or crippled by the Alliance.
All bets are off had that succeeded.
For the Alliance. This means it is the threat of the Lich King all over again. There is no line that the Horde will not cross. Enslavement in Undeath. Avoiding this fate is why the Alliance marched against the Lich King in Northrend.
But there are no more voices of peace and diplomacy. All would have been committed to breaking the Horde.
Horde underestimate the Alliance. Until Horde used the plague the Horde lost the battle of Undercity.
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Rastakhan was a war crima and must be avenged.
Jaina carried the war. Her dead means the alliance loses their greatest defender.
fir of all, the bomb was dicetly targetet as jaina- by using derek, if they wanted to take out the entire leadership, they would have sent a bomb or something else directly towards SW, without any frills.
Secondly, catching everyone at the same time is more than unlikely because even the alliance leadership should be cold, everyone in one place at the same time is a very stupid idea because of exactly this.
And besides, almost half of them had nothing to do with Derek, so they would stay away from him.
thirdly, even if it succeeded, do you seriously think they wouldn’t have something like an contingency plan or other figures in the leadership (e.g. shandirs) to step in directly, or the military in general?
The only thing that would bring is what Moltensage wrote - the alliance would really lose all restraint and act ruthlessly because now it’s a matter of bare survival - everything for victory.
Then the Vinicar orbital laswer would shoot at OG (basically the alliance equivalent of the soviet dead hand)
The alliance was practically winning after daza alor, but for plot reasons they didn’t push for victory (which was absolutely stupid - in a war of annihilation, which only led to the war going on with unnecessary losses, and again makes the alliance players look stupid for giving up the advantage).
If the alliance is gone the Horde will never be short of ressources again. Wars in real life was waged for much less before mind you.
sigh, here we go again , the broken record “the allaince will be gona”
Its not like you alredy said ist one thousnde time here already- and tousend time we explaint it wont happen.
And to secure the ressoucres you musst invets first some, you shoud as german know that was basicly what germany must do tto get the chanch to secure/ gather some, and they faild because tehy run fast dry on thrie stockpile of ressources while the USA and russia pump out weapons, tanks and airplanes in mass because threir vast ressouces.
Even France and Great britin coudn`t do (ans were themself deppended on imports
You alliance folks would rage quit if you onyl get half of a taste of what the Horde went rhough after our leadership removed during both MOP and BFA.
Horde Heroes: Rokhan, Rexxar, Voss, Thrall, Baine, Gazlow, Calia, Thalyssra, Lor’themar.
Alliance Heroes: Anduin, Jaina, Veressa, Alleria, Tyranda, Malfurion, Shandris, Maiev, Tyralyon, Moira, Fanstad, Muradin, Brann, Kudran, Dagran, Magni, Velen, Gelbin, Genn, Taelia.
I may have forgotten some. But yeah, there is a slight imbalance.
lol once again you are demonstrably wrong.
Zandalari Trolls were their own independent nation under King Rhastakhan.
The 4th war began by the Horde is none of the business of the Zandalari. The Alliance taking out the Zandalari King because of unprovoked attacks against the Alliance. Is absolutely none of the business of the Horde.
Under Princess Talanji the Zandalari Trolls became a part of the Horde.
The Kul Tirans were a powerful nation without Jaina Proudmoore.
Sylvannas simply did not account for Jaina who was up till that point neutral.
When she Pacified Horde dissidents, what some call the “purge of Dalaran” this was to defend the neutrality of Dalaran. A neutrality that the Horde violated.
Plagues being spread - deforestation - destroying the vale of eternal blossoms. Time and time again the Horde damage nature the environment and the world as a whole. Without something to stop them then the Horde will ruin another world. Remember Draenor blew up because of Horde Warlocks practices dangerous magics.
You ignore Drakka now spiritual leader of the Greenskin Orcs.
Magni is neutral in service to Azeroth. Genn has abdicated his throne. Taelia is not actually a leader. Council of 3 hammers is just rulership of Ironforge. As Dark Iron Dwarves was going to claim Ironforge but Varian Wrynn interfered.
Dagran is not a leader. Just the offspring of the former Emperor. He can be replaced and Moira the Bronzebeard daughter her rule can be challenged. Why should Dark Iron Dwarves be ruled by Bronzebeard Dwarves?
Turalyon could be in service to the Light. Vareesa is not a leader among the Alliance. Similar to how Ogres are friendly to the Horde but not a part of the Horde. The Silver Covenant and the High Elves are friendly to the Alliance but not a part of the Alliance.
Tyranda… The Night Elves are still recovering from the Horde genocide. The Draenai had to recover from the Horde genociding their people.
Gelbin rules over both people as Prince Erazmin has essentially abdicated his rule over the MechaGnome people.
Shandris Feathermoon is just a general. Not a part of leadership. Maiev Shadowsong is not part of the Alliance leadership.
Your claims does not stand up to scrutiny.
Which sides with the horde, even before they allowed the horde to use dazu alor as base of operation and Station troops there- it is the same situation the horde used to justify theramore.
So, daza alor IS JUSTIFIABLE since same situation as theramore, ans horse cabt aguee agauat thag because that wous ment theramore wanst eithwe and woud alao another horde warcrime.
Dagrqn is ironically the rightfully heir, even moira gad the righ of the throne, but was defy ut because varain (because she pulled some unnecessary shenanigans) still, thee is the daughter of magni -daughter if tve former king and a Bronzebeard.
And dagar is also half Bronzebeard, half darkiron so he had claim to the both Thrones of Ironforge and shadowforge.
The only left out are the wildhammer
That’s actually wrong, after amidrasil Tyrande and malfurion stepped down as leder and gave shandris that position -they was a whole cutscene.
I didn’t ignore Draka. But we haven’t actually seen her do anything outside of WoD.
Magni, was neutral when he was the speaker. But spoilers
Also, I wasn’t simply mentioning Leaders. I was mentioning Heroes. Characters that are actually involved in the story, either ingame or through the novels or previous games.
Rexxar isn’t a Horde Leader either, he is pretty much just a neutral party with affiliation to the Horde. But he is considered a Hero by the Horde.
Incorrect. Rhastakhan had his life extended unnaturally by Rezan. He was using the Horde to resolve their issues as he became apathetic an not understanding the threat that the Blood Trolls posed.
Dagran is the blood of the former Emperor. But he is dead. The Dark Irons have been ruled by Dark Irons. The political marriage with the Bronzebeard daughter would see the Dark Irons ruled by the Bronzebeards. The Blood of the former Emperor has been watered down by Moira anyway.
For some time Bronzebeards and Wildhammers 1 v 2 the Dark Irons. The line of succession is important. However new rulers can be crowned.
Incorrect. A stand in is not a leader. To lead a people is more than being a general. Even in the times of Warrior Kings they also had to be a statesman.
Incorrect. Rexxar came through the Dark Portal with the first Horde. Rexxar is actually the leader of the Half-Ogres Half-Orcs people.
Rexxar was also present at the leaders summit where the Horde leadership was gathered, Thomas Zelling was murdered and Baine Bloodhoof arrested.
The Horde still has plenty of heroes.
No they don’t. Stop lying.
That would actually be Leoroxx, Rexxar’s Father.
And while it is correct that Rexxar went through the Dark Portal, he wasn’t in the service of the Horde at the time. He has never been an official member of the Horde, he is a wandering adventurer.
Can you list a few a part from the ones I’ve already mentioned?
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