When will we finally be able to avenge Rastakhan?

[Kurst-die-aldor]

Another spam topic bz erviem, jta not like we had that them already +10 timea in tbis forim-pr zhe fprim with the qhole prrmide and phrased.

Just repirt it for spam and hipe GM woll remive it.

@Erevien-die-aldor

So we have 2025 and Jaina is still alive somehow

*cough cough * sylvanas who commited Genocided ans take part in a nealy codmisc whide Holocaust.

Jeah, classic erevien hypocrisy.

@Irisi-silvermoon

the Alliance?!
Alliance agreed for the trial of Garrosh, took part in it, and the novel makes it clear that he wasn’t going to be sentenced to death

If vatian dint intervene and tbrall woud javw smash his head like a melon qe we’re apard of WoD-and legion-and bfa-ans Sl

@Erevien-die-aldor

The alliance attacked his people he defended himself

Well because the were atill at war-atuff happend in war.

@Lorena-sporeggar

Jaina remains untouchable despite everything she’s done. Meanwhile, Horde characters have been punished far more harshly

Sylvanas remain untouched, so yeah-nice doblw standard aa usal.
They wibt toch jaian since the sint kill Sylvanas-ot woud be massiv backlash aince shes also an old Charaktere and Blizzard woud be acuswd if Hypocrisy.

@Erevien-die-aldor

Zandalar wasn’t part of the war until Kul Tiras attacked

They were bade if Operation fir hirde.
THE SAMR ARGUMENT YOU USE RO JUSTIFIED theramore.
Ao, iywah aame logic-also then legit militar target.

@Rexfu-draenor

The alliance put his daughter in the dungeon at the start of the expansion

Because alliance and zandalari were at war at keast since cata witb the rise of zandalari patch.

@Pippy-earthen-ring

They were harboring the horde within their city.
They were providing them with aid and resources

The same argument hirde player yse fir theramore-so the sane applied to dazar alore

@Keento-argent-dawn

Alliance when their cities get destroyed during the war:
"Atrocities! Genocide! Murder!

Alliance when they commit war crimes:
“It’s war, nobody cares

Which alliance warcrimes

@Rexfu-draenor

But time and again we see how the Alliance marines are with them bombing a goblin ship because they didn’t want witnesses

First: they fly a pirate flag
Second: if the alliance dint attacked the ship the goblins weren’t frees and we had ni playable goblins or goblins for hirse aibcw the player wous be still slaves.

@Rexfu-draenor

It wasn’t just the caravans until blizz had to retcon it because it showed that the Alliance can infact do wrong.

So-if its retconed you cabt the Allianz fir ut since it bever happend

@Rexfu-draenor

Riiight, that is why they went against their own warchief twice for doing bad things

Abd still hirde willingly committed warcrimes at the beginning out of their own conscience.

@Erevien-die-aldor

My logic is flawless. It is alliance fans who can’t get past their stuck mindset where the alliance domiance hurts the lore

And that why the ehile stiry abd ro forum laugh about you since your clueless.

@Chadston-argent-dawn

No, it was not. There is no justification on either side for the deliberate targeting and murder of innocent civilians

No innocent were killed it was a bug- confirmed by Blizzard.
And jaina has all right to punuah the sunreaver since treason.

@Rexfu-draenor

This is true as well, the Zandalari didn’t join the horde until after Sylvanas promised to help get justice for

Still zandalari was base of operation prior they join, same agrument YOU horde player use to justify theramore

So same applies for Zandalar.

[Ðelenis-dun-modr (Ðelenis)]

@Erevien-die-aldor

The alliance burned every bridge but still except the blood elves to be nice towards them after they harmed them multiple times. Filthy hypocrite.

Read everything about the Second War and compare the damage caused by the Alliance to that caused by the Orcs in their war of extermination by allying themselves with the Amani.

Thanks to the Draenei, you have the sunwell restored and you’re not greenstone junkies anymore.

[Keento-argent-dawn]

@Kurst-die-aldor

Which alliance warcrimes

Brother, read the damn thread

[Kurst-die-aldor]

Sry, 103 post are already a lit abd tve voldyn thing NEVER happened since ut was retconed

[Ðelenis-dun-modr (Ðelenis)]

@Keento-argent-dawn

Brother, read the damn thread

m still waiting for you to tell me which civilians the alliance bombed in Voldum.

I’ll give you a preview of who bombed civilians:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKIeE82RPz8&t=269s

[Erevien-die-aldor (Erevien)]

@Kurst-die-aldor

And jaina has all right to punuah the sunreaver since treason.

The real culprits were never caught. That was Fan’lyr Silverthorn and the PC. All she did is making more enemies for the alliance since the Sunreavers were full on Horde loyalists after that.

@Ðelenis-dun-modr

Read everything about the Second War and compare the damage caused by the Alliance to that caused by the Orcs in their war of extermination by allying themselves with the Amani.

Alliance should be attacked on sight if they ever tried to enter Silvermoon in any capacity.

[Kurst-die-aldor]

Which side is morally better?

If we’re going back to the core question: horde still did way more things as the Alliance. Horde: Genocided the dranei (and on some cases r@pe them, the existence if Garona proof it Destruction of stormwind (first war) enslavment of the Red Dragonflight. killing innocent Dragon welps to enforce compliance (yes, they destroyed unhatched Eggs) Forced Alesxstrasza to breed Dragons (R@pe?) R@ping civilians there and in hillsbrand foothills. Ethics cleansing in hillsbrand by the Forsaken in class…

Here a list if all what hirde dud.

So yeah-horde shou be better shut mouth

[Ðelenis-dun-modr (Ðelenis)]

Ah, I remember that thread.
I participated in it.

Indeed, the alleged crimes of the alliance can be counted on the fingers of one hand. They are a drop of water compared to the ocean that represents the horde.

[Guldog-argent-dawn]

You need to cry more, I feel this isn’t enough.

[Rexfu-draenor]

A rogue sub-faction had been in the past, yes. Like multiple races who are today in the alliance.
And they blindly went to war with them assuming they knew about the burning, when not even the entirety of the horde knew as it was happening.
They could have send spies to confirm the horde and zandalari were allied first.
Instead the imprisoned Talanji, who was innocent and pushed the zandalari to join the horde. How many more races with the alliance give to the horde on a silver platter?
The forsaken
the blood elves
The zandalari and vulpera
the nightborne

How is that not incompetent?

@Pippy-earthen-ring

I resent that. I am NOT like him. Not even a little bit.

Then stop acting like a cheap alliance Erevien knock off.
You’re not even good at it.

@Pippy-earthen-ring

You know what makes YOU biased?

- The zandalari didn’t know what the horde did, so it’s okay they helped them.
- The alliance didn’t know the zandalari didn’t know, so they’re bad for doing what they did.

After that same logic was used to justify the alliance. But it’s only ok when one side does it? and yet you claim you aren’t biased.

@Ðelenis-dun-modr

Because the naaru can’t be summoned. They’re the ones who made contact with the Draenei.

Says who? Has it even been tried?

@Ðelenis-dun-modr

I haven’t dedicated myself to making 24/7 absurd threads about “alliance/horde bias.”

So you enter the thread and act like a fanboy for the alliance? He makes more threads sure, but your way of thinking is the same as his

[Erevien-die-aldor (Erevien)]

Oh trust me I will. The double standard Blizzard has with the factions are getting more obvious each day.

[Guldog-argent-dawn]

Yes, please do. Glory to the alliance!

[Ðelenis-dun-modr (Ðelenis)]

@Erevien-die-aldor

Alliance should be attacked on sight if they ever tried to enter Silvermoon in any capacity.

I’m going to go around your city with the tittle “Horde slayer” and you’re going to have to put up with it.

[Guldog-argent-dawn]

Me too! Or something similar. The hordebreaker

[Erevien-die-aldor (Erevien)]

It is a Horde city so yes I will make sure all Blood elf rpers I know will bully the alliance community the day the expansion launches.

[Ðelenis-dun-modr (Ðelenis)]

@Erevien-die-aldor

It is a Horde city so yes I will make sure all Blood elf rpers I know will bully the alliance community the day the expansion launches.

They can come in warmode on.

[Deillwyna-ravencrest]

You will get your revenge when you fix this damn door.

[Ðelenis-dun-modr (Ðelenis)]

@Rexfu-draenor

Says who? Has it even been tried?

Why didn’t they summon them when the horde was besieging Shattrath City?

Find me a single section in the chronicles or in the books that indicates that the Naaru “can be summoned”

@Rexfu-draenor

Instead the imprisoned Talanji, who was innocent and pushed the zandalari to join the horde.

If she was traveling with Zul, it stands to reason that the alliance would think they were allies. Basic logic.

[Ðelenis-dun-modr (Ðelenis)]

@Rexfu-draenor

the nightborne

After saving their asses, Tyrande tells Thalyssra she doesn’t trust them for hiding under a dome during the War of the Ancients.

Wow! What a huge offense, enough to make her join the Horde and participate in a genocide against her own Kaldorei brethren and against one of the two factions that helped them liberate the city from the legion.

@Rexfu-draenor

So you enter the thread and act like a fanboy for the alliance? He makes more threads sure, but your way of thinking is the same as his

Isn’t that what you’re doing but with the horde?

[Rexfu-draenor]

@Kurst-die-aldor

Because alliance and zandalari were at war at keast since cata witb the rise of zandalari patch

Cata was years ago and even longer in game, and it was a fraction of the race that participated in it. since then they kept to themselves until the alliance pulled them into the war.

@Kurst-die-aldor

First: they fly a pirate flag
Second: if the alliance dint attacked the ship the goblins weren’t frees and we had ni playable goblins or goblins for hirse aibcw the player wous be still slaves.

Killing those who run away from you isn’t heroic, And \you mean the same slaves the alliance almost drowned?

@Kurst-die-aldor

So-if its retconed you cabt the Allianz fir ut since it bever happend

They had to retcon it because the alliance fanboys started crying that they didn’t want to get hit by the villain-bat like the horde has been. Can’t break the illusion that the alliance is perfect after all

@Kurst-die-aldor

Abd still hirde willingly committed warcrimes at the beginning out of their own conscience.

A part of the horde did commit warcrimes, but not without remorse and shunning of other horde members

@Kurst-die-aldor

Still zandalari was base of operation prior they join, same agrument YOU horde player use to justify theramore

The Theramore bombing was bad, but not the same. It was a military base on horde ground, right outside of their capital. Zandalar is the zandalari’s home, and they were only allowed to stay there because they saved Talanji from the Alliance so she vouched for them.

@Ðelenis-dun-modr

Isn’t that what you’re doing but with the horde?

If you were able to make decent arguments against the horde i would have agreed, and unlike you i have admitted the horde did bad things

@Ðelenis-dun-modr

Find me a single section in the chronicles or in the books that indicates that the Naaru “can be summoned”

Sure right after you show me where they tried anything to get a new naaru.
people can summon wild gods/ loa and recently a world eating voidlord.
Illidan summoned a whole world. Yet the naaru are somehow impossible to reach while we meet multiple?