When winning Battlegrounds becomes impossible

There are just players on the forums here who will continue repeating that premades don’t exist in EBgs, that they don’t cheat and now that everything is fine with BG Blitz. They obviously think that by repeating it over and over it will eventually become the truth.

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Of course they will come on here and try to flip things to make it look like it’s in peoples imaginations, they’ve been doing it for absolutely years now. They have to try and give the impression that everything is fine, cos if something is done about it then their whole way of playing the game gets flipped on it’s head.

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You call it deflection and personal attacks. There are no personal attack but you ask for proof as if you were an authority and I wonder…because who are you. You’re beaten by logic and now want to ignore me. Be my quest.

If you’re going to stalk me, it’s as easy as putting my character’s name in the armory. Maybe it is too difficult for the simplest minds to imagine.

And so far I haven’t lost a single Blitz.

I have also seen absolutely nothing out of the ordinary except for very long queues and some declines.

Again the insults…you don’t learn anything do you .

If you play Blitz regularly and only team up alone you will have losses that’s sheer probability…so you clearly team up, good to have that in place.

Keep telling yourself that. at the end of the day it doesn’t change how Blitz bgs are.

I precisely play Blitz for avoid the encounter with others premades when I’m playing alone. But ok.

If you had a minimum of common sense and/or intelligence , you would ask yourself why I am going to try to team up in Blitz, being able to do it in normal Bgs in a group of 5 with faster queues.

Thanks! Thats what i think.
If is a team game with 10 players or more, how can i be the one or the only one playing bad?

Maybe try to cover most of the way on your mount with 150% speed, then only stealth on the final stretch. If there is a rogue in the enemy team, target him with bge addon so you know where he is so you dont get sapped and lose time. Also if someone picks in front of you, whisper them “drop and let me carry” or something to that effect. I often write something like that if I want to fc myself and they would often obey and let me carry. And I’m not even a tank.

I’m not saying you’re incompetent or I don’t believe you, but there must be something inefficient about the way you go picking up the flag if arriving later than anyone else even though you try going directly for the flag occurs regularly to you.

I also use a lot of pings regardless of my group size to highlight important objectives or enemy players / vehicles that really need to die.

What was the score? was the other team losing heavily on points perhaps?
Maybe the attacker from the other team realized that capping against two defending opponents wont be possible and gave up. Do you remember the MMR? Just out of curiosity.

Your claim is also unproven.
I can only speak from my subjective experience as someone who played around 30 rounds of blitz this season, always in duos with me as a healer and 1 dps friend.
We won like 80% of them. Even those rounds we lost it was not because the opponents were so coordinated and played so well, but because our other 6 players were completely useless. How can that be when it is full of premade opponents? Did we plough straight over them despite the fact that they were organized? Were we just unimaginably lucky that we never faced any premades in all these rounds?

The far more likely explanation is that nobody queue syncs in this mode, and the reason why claim there are lots of them is

Name one person in this forum who claims premades don’t exist in EBGs.

Well if you make a claim that there are so many premades in blitz bg, maybe show us a screenshot or a video. I also uploaded a video to demonstrate my IoC strat and
multiple screenshots to prove some other points.
Without it you just make unproven claims and what can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

You should rather take on more responsibility and ask yourself “How can I become a better player and carry my team to victory.”

I don’t remember tbh, my team was absolutely crushing them from the get go. I barely needed to lift a finger apart from CCing anyone near the market base.

It could have been that my teams HP levels were very high. About 1mil average upto 1.8mil hp. I only had about 700k at the time as ive just come back and my gear is pretty low still.

Youre right they could have just given up and stood there instead. But my team didn’t even attack the guy even when others arrived to try and cap, he still just stood there while the dragon and I took out the others and they all left that one guy alone funnily enough

And you prove my point over and over again that you have nothing valid to say so you keep on with personal insults. I’m not wasting my breath on you anymore.

“Far more likely explanation”, you claim. According to what? Where is the proof that it’s a more likely explanation? You make statements because you BELIEVE it’s the truth, not because you know it is. I’m also convinced of what I say because that’s my experience from the tons of Blitz I’ve been playing and nothing can change that experience. No matter how much you guys keep denying it I have 8-9 declines in each BG Blitz queue. And that’s a FACT, what is uncertain here is the reaso to why it’s happening. You pull arguements out like…you have ”a few random declines”. Maybe for you pall, but could it possibly be within your comprehension that other players have other expriences?And they are wondering why it’s happening all the time and giving their ideas to what could be the reason(s)

But noooooooooooo you bloody ”give me proof” (or it’s not happening)

Asking others for proof is just far fetched. People have been discussing on the forums for a looong time without “proof” and it still was possible to exchange points of view. You guys just use the “proof it” to try to corner anyone who are against what you say. It’s so f… easy to say ”proof” it. Sure I’m having it in the back of my head to screenshot everything when I play the game, every time I do pvp, just in case someone would DEMAND me to proof something, so I’m allowd to have my opinion on a forum. Are you for real???

No what this is about is that to you guys – (alts or pals) it’s not about trying to have a decent exchange of points of views, in other words, having a discussion, in this case making Blitz a better bg experience for everyone

No, you guys never left pvp you’re still fighting and you have one aim and that’s to belittle everyone who says otherwise THAN YOU, insinuating it’s just because we’re bad players.

You don’t listen and you won’t listen. You do that over and over because there’s a big black hole of void inside yourself and you need to fill that up by insulting others, so you can feel better about yourself.

What also is pretty sad is that because of you loudmouths OP now thinks he is doing everything wrong, and that he needs to improve his game and playstyle so much more, because Blitz BG is a really balanced and good bg filled with random players, who ALL just happen to be so much better.

Okay fair enough - wrong wording on my part. There are lots of players claiming there are no rules bend by premading.
Oh and btw…I was in an ebg yesterday with you and we we were so owned by ALL you random people. I’m sure it was just you + a couple of friends and 12 others who also randomly had a couple of friends with them.
Big random team but everyone funny enough said it was a premade.

People love to bandy the word “premade” around, myself included, but I can guarantee you that Fistus had at most four friends with him in that EBG. All it takes is one player to lead the team and it will in all likelihood result in a resounding victory.

Compared to the other possible explanations. I am winning the vast majority of my rounds in blitz. Before we reached 2k mmr, we played like 20 rounds together and were entirely undefeated. Only after 2k did we lose our first few rounds.

How can this be, if the bracket is so infested with premade, queue syncing teams?
Here are the options:

A) We were the luckiest men alive and just dodged all the premade teams by pure coincidence.

B) We played so well that we won in spite of the enemy team being coordinated.

C) These opponents were no premades after all.

You can also add your own explanation if you can think of something else.
For me it is not even a question. It must be option C).

You have the right to tell everyone what you think the reasons are according to you, but we have the right to tell you that we don’t believe these are the real reasons.

I don’t understand this aversion to evidence.
When I wanted to prove something, I never had any issue to provide the demanded evidence.

When I said that Larkus’ premade raid camps graveyards, I uploaded screenshots of it. I didn’t want them to accuse me of spreading false rumors. In the screenshots you can clearly see that they are doing it for real and they got really upset when I ruined it for them.

When I claimed that you can win Isle of Conquest as Horde even if you lose the first fight for Hangar, I recorded a whole round where I pull off the strategy I wanted to show to demonstrate to everyone that it is indeed possible and I am not making stuff up and telling fairy tales, and that everyone can win back control over hangar as a horde player, if they do something similar.

When some braggard from the arena forum made fun of my shuffle stats and claimed that I only became duelist because MW was so strong in the first weeks of the season, I personally went back to SS and grinded back to duelist to prove him wrong.

Those who tell the truth should never be afraid of providing evidence for their claims.

You know what you should do? Queue for Blitz, let a program on your PC record your gameplay for you. Then upload a round where you think you are losing because the opponent team is clearly a premade. Then we will have something to discuss.

As of now, all I can say about your claims is “Not according to my experience.”

Who disagrees with you here? Priskah, Delenis and I do.
We are not alts of each other, but different people. Alts would have roughly the same amount of achievement points, all 3 of us have vastly different amounts of achievement points.

Priskah and Delenis are friends, I am not with them. I only see them as opponents from time to time in 10-15 man bgs where they play better than the average player. They are members of an alliance community of premade players. They participate in premade raids in epic bgs, for which I criticize them because I find it unsportive to queue sync and bend the 5 man rule.

In spite of our differences, we think you are wrong here.

Why so dramatic? I think I am actually being rather polite and matter-of-fact with you.

That’s really a cope on their part. But it’s a fact that you can’t be banned for queue syncing. It’s kind of a grey area. I think premade raids in epic bgs make the game worse because the opponents are just getting farmed and it’s frustrating for them. It is understandable that you want to increase your own chances of winning, but the opponents should be given a sporting chance. Completely one-sided slaughter is just boring.

This is why I am also being consistent and don’t participate in them myself. However, I often take a handful of friends with me into epic bgs, up to 4, and write instructions via raid warnings. Yesterday, I had one warrior and one warlock with me. We were 3 people in total, playing random and epic bgs.

Some regular posters in this forum also regularly play bgs with me, and they can confirm that I never ever queue sync. Everything about me is transparent and I have nothing to hide. If you watch my IoC video, you can even see how there’s only one warrior with me in the round. We may appear coordinated with the rest of the team when we assault hangar for the second time, but that is all spontaneous order created by people listening to our calls. From the perspective of our opponents, I can see how they might mistake us for a premade raid, but we really weren’t. Here’s the video again if you wonder which one I’m talking about.

h.ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiSzjP0-d64

I noticed the same.

Blitz is a guaranteed loss for some reason. It’s literally impossible to win one.

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It’s not just isolated to CTF games, that was just an example, although same thing happened in a game in WSG earlier. Got the flag first but team had been overpowered in mid and were mostly coming back from GY so that left me trying to survive 3 Havocs 2 BM’s and a Mage thru mid, after that inevitable death it was just a constant procession of others getting the flag cos I was at the GY, which then leaves me as nothing more than a cc’er and slower down and by the time I can get up to our fc in the FR they have been killed. That again leaves me the whole map to cross, by which time someone else grabs it again and the cycle repeats. I tell them I’m basically a spare part if they keep grabbing the flag but makes no difference. In future I’ll have to skip the trying to cc and slow down for them and just go wait at flag spot till they die.

Switch it to AB or BFG and being the tank I would usually expect to go farm or Lighthouse, cap it and defend it while the heals and dps go WW, or onto LM/BS. However all too often you approach the flag and some warrior leaps to the flag, or a DH flies down sometimes a combination of players, all racing each other to cap Farm. Those vital moments that they could have used to be a bigger threat at LM. Next thing you hear is Alliance has assaulted Farm, cos those who raced to cap it, have now ran off somewhere else. Then it’s Alliance has assaulted LM cos we were short of dps cos they went awol after capping Farm.

It’s all the little silly things that you expect in randoms but lately seems to be happening far more often, so many winnable games just thrown away.

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I understand.
Good luck with your mates in the future.

You probably should.

Tell your team upfront you want to defend the starting base, maybe that will help a bit.

Oh I hate that. I see it all the time people cap mines and the whole entire team runs to WW leaving mines completely unguarded only for us to somhow lose WW and a rogue has capped mines.

As the old meme goes, their team is made.up of elite SAS members, mine is made up of stupid monkeys.

idk about normal bg and epic bg, but blitz its solely RNG
you can carry games or lose, but the game cannot rly be “unfair” as much as the normal battlegrounds gets
there is not faction issues, or premade issues

personally im having a blast playing it, im almost winning every game, i was at 21 wins and 4 loses, then i lost like 3 in a row that got me kinda mad but then i won another 10 or so, now im like 31 wins and 8 loses, too bad there is no armory for tracking it and i can only see this from the achivement :frowning:

The REFlex addon is an option if you want to track your blitz stats.
You can’t filter for blitz rounds as of now, but they are highlighted in a different color than regular bg matches in your match history.