I really want to see some climate change,like snowing in Zuldazar would bee really awkhard,like the lich king is coming,but another one.
And interesting coincidence: horde mostly has paid off for their warcrimes (Garrosh and Sylvana were punished at the end), but the Alliance never stood to the trial and this is really bad, seems more like Alliance just pretending to be “good” although they might be even more evil and spineless, because they don’t want to bring the offenders to justice for civilian genocides and other crimes (Taurajo, purge of Dalaran, vulpera caravan kills).
Horde looks more like they want to learn from their mistakes and actions but alliance are so stubborn on their world views. Horde at least tried to redempt the crimes which can’t be said about alliance, they just want to win every war at any cost.
Were they punished for this, I seem to remember Jaina and Baine coming to some resolution over this and some people were punished or handed over or something (been a while).
Didn’t Jaina lose her place on the Kirin Tor council?
Don’t know enough about this.
Their only crime there was that they didn’t finish the job.
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Yawns …This sort of replies bore me at this point -.-
But here… Gives Nisam a cool guys club point Your a really cool and masculine person for saying this… Here is your award.
How could they? Alliance can’t even deal with their Kobold problem.
Alliance should even not touch vulpera, how cruel it was from their side to kill the cute foxes without much of the reason except conquest I guess
At the time of the fourth war… the Vulpera caravans didn’t even know a war was evening happening.
They where hired by the horde to do caravan work… Transporting shipments and supplies for the horde.
And for that they where by the alliance. Seen as legitimate targets of war.
That being said… They choose too burn us alive. They sent warlocks too burn us all alive.
Innocent Fox people who had no idea what the heck they where getting into or doing.
Case and point… the alliance are not above committing atrocities or evil acts of war. Same as the Horde… they are not above the horde in any way shape or form.
They can be just as evil if they want too be… and capable.
You wont find a Vulpera alive after the fourth war who considers the Alliance the good guys.
You came you saw… you judged… and you burned our friends and families alive. There is no way the alliance could ever sell us some ‘‘We are the good guys’’ story…
My take on this question:
Short answer: It depends on yourself.
Long answer:
The Alliance favors order, structure and Unity. Alliance also favors cultural height and evolution. They favor the same shared ideals such as nobility, sharing knowledge and politics.
The Horde favors Honor, Glory and Individuality. Horde also favors cultural segregation and practicality. They favor the same shared ideals such as loyalty, independence and ancestral Values.
It really is up to yourself which side you prefer.
You must have missunderstood the horde by ten thousand miles if you think. We are the faction that favors segregation in any shape way or form…
The horde is literally a race of outcasts and missfits banding together too survive you the Alliance…
What the hell is this? You insulting us all Draenei? 
I mean, tell me where I am wrong.
Being a “misfit” is being radical different than others.
So, the Horde favors exactly those traits. Uniqueness, being an outcast.
Again, tell me where I’m wrong.
If anything that sounds the most inclusive no? Or do we have the definition of segregation wrong?
You said the horde favors segregation… Of course I would have problem with that… considering our faction does that the least.
Where did you even get that from that we are like that?
Am I crazy here? Or did Hera just call the lietrall horde of misfits the ones who segregates people the most? Am I on the cool aid or here?
Am I taking crazy pills? Or how screwd up is that?
How backwards is this? Are you serious?
Segregation and “cultural Segregation” are different contexts.
When I speak of “cultural segregation” I am speaking of many different traditions and ways to live being present in the Horde.
Look at all the Orc clans and their traditions in lore. Or how the different species eat and drink. A Nightborne will always favor Arcwine over a Troll beverage for example.
That’s cultural segregation. The lack of intention to mix cultures in that case.
Sure, you Hordies share some things with each other. But overall, your factions races stay for the most part separated aside of your allegiance, exchange of knowledge and such.
Or do you see Trolls living in Suramar? Or Orcs living in Silvermoon?
In the Books of WoW there are at times mentioned how, for example, Orcs dislike living in stone buildings like the Draenei use because it makes them feel uncomfortable not to live in more fitting houses appropriate to their way of live.
If you need a Warcraft-disconnected example, take a caveman and imagine you put him in a room with a window.
He would go nuts! Because it feels not natural for him.
And in a way the same feeling of discomfort might apply for an Orc visiting Silvermoon perhaps.
And nothing more I am applying.
When you look at the Alliance on the other hand, there are so many “mixed divisions” in the Military of the Alliance that wear all the same gear. They use the same language to communicate in the military, they use the same weapons.
Like I said before in another post weeks ago… Giving a Nightelf a Rifle instead of a Bow is like giving an Ape an Apple instead of a Banana. It’s not natural for their way of life.
So the imperial faction of the alliance… that only takes in other humanoid races… and constantly wages war and murders anyone not human enough for them… Is suddenly the most inclusive? They dont segregate people?
I actually do… The end… Like what do you expect of us?
What are you even trying to emplore here?
There are nightborne tourist NPC already all over silvermoon.
But besides that what do you want?
The horde races live and fight together?
What do you exactly want it too look like for it not too be ‘‘Segeragation’’ anymore?
I dont see you the alliance exactly living and dining with each other either? I am getting legit pissed now. xD
What exactly do you wanna see before you stop calling the horde a segregation society?
You do know that all playable races in WoW count as humanoid? All have 2 arms, 2 legs, speak and walk upright.
Can you even read right?
This is the general definition of cultural segregation:
This is the separation of different groups, usually according to culture, ethnicity or race . Racial and ethnic segregation see people being split and treated differently based on their race and ethnicity. This is more evident in areas of political conflict and can be highly noticeable in developing countries.
For years your Horde had a “Warchief” of a single race that everyone else had to follow. Only recently you managed to go to a “Council”. And even that Council only exists since roughly 7 lore years.
Also, on another note, the very race you play, the Vulpera, had to prove their worth to the Horde because they were not been taken seriously. Your literal race is the embodiment of that cultural segregation.
Meanwhile the Alliance is a purely military allegiance to each other. As the Wowpedia clearly states:
The faction is not a uniform governmental body, but rather a coalition of mutual military and economic aid between many member states, consisting of different races across Azeroth. Diplomacy is key within the Alliance, as the leaders of each member state hold supreme authority over their own politics, including their internal laws, economy, and military forces. The respective leaders hold no obligations to lend these resources to the faction’s common cause, and can use them to accomplish their own interests without any consequences in their relationship with the allied powers.
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Alliance#Organization
Very clever! Bravo Hera… Have a bone!! Good girl!
‘‘Horde favors cultural segregation’’ And your answer is… ‘‘This is the general definition of cultural segregation`?’’ …What? Are you freaking sane? No it doesn’t you humonculi.
The only time the horde got culturally segregated was under Garrosh as a warchief… But before that… and everytime after… the horde was definetley not. And this is such a straw man rear pull to make…
You cannot honestly call the faction that tried too include all the missfits that didn’t fit in with the imperial alliance…
the faction that segregates people… Your either drunk or I don’t know what.
Quite funny you call the Alliance “Imperial” when it is basically just like the Nato IRL.
You know what? I said with my comment initially:
You don’t have to like it. It’s up to you.
I will walk away from this discussion. I have better things to do. Neither of us has to convince the other.
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whats funny about it?
Buh-bye watch out for the door. dont faceplant now.
Gonna be honest… I dont wanna draw nato and all into this… But this isnt the first time you mention this too me. You clearly have something on your mind.
I am ready to answer what I can.
Sing me your russian propeganda. And your tiktok songs 