The every body knows , Alliance is good side ! Horde burn the tree of handsome man so I can not get a farter. They are the bad, and the bad LIE , so they say they are good but the truth ? Obvious, they are lieing to you all, and say they are good actual × they are bad. Then , alliance is good they say yes I am good I like to play World Of WarCraft this is not a lie , this is a true.
Some Blood Elves brand Void Elves as traitors as though your role was to just lay there and die. Alleria made use of you. Gave your purpose and direction.
Yeah ok, but why did you (and by that I mean your leadership) go along with starting the war in the first place.
I think his point was the she was turning it into something it was (meaning the Blackhand Horde), makes more sense with his flashback of Draenor.
Void elves don’t have much lore. We were exiled because we might corrupt the Sunwell (which is a valid concern on the belves part). Alleria showed us that we can control the void. Also a lot of out NPC say that they never wanted to be part of the Horde in the first place and that “it feels right beeing part of the Alliance again”.
The Velf exile I personally consider a grey area. I mean yeah it sucks being exiled but our existence does threaten the life support of the entire race.
This is exactly what horde apologists want
He likes to ignore the fact that the black hand horde was dismantled after the second war. The only thing this faction shares is orcs and name
A bit side note, but not that much
Is the rumor true about the Oshu’nei joining the Alliance…?
Seems like a plan to destroy the Alliance and the Horde
https://youtu.be/B0LM4fT206c?si=Y0ybtK2m8d2wVEvn
The rumour mill always runs overtime before a new expansion.
However racial and faction identity is how players experience the World of Warcraft. Orcs should never dirty the ranks uniforms and banners of the Alliance and humans will never have a place among the Horde. The neural players that are calling for the end of the factions are gaining traction.
But the Alliance and Horde are the foundations of the game.
Horde Gnomes and Alliance Tauren sounds just as foolish.
“Slightly” is a big understatement, i counted 28 acts on horde side with only 4 for alliance.
The horde a quadrupole amount of atrocities.
Why coud that be?
Because the horde lost most of her credibility
Is just like the situation after WW2 where the Americans judge the germans since they were obviously the bad guy while the Americans where not entirely innocent but that is copard to the germans little
No excuse since horde started the war firsthanded and the leadership as the common soilder eagerly participate in the act.
The horde disrupt the peace (again)
He ignores the fact that the Horde was also given the order to burn Teldrassil. An order they did not refuse to obey.
If you word it properly you would get some truths from the Horde. @Warlóór finally admitted that the Horde are the faction of child murderers. Although he constantly clings to the: demon blood made us do it, excuse.

Because the horde lost most of her credibility
When did the Horde have credibility?
They speak of Honour but perform the most honourless atrocious acts time and time again. Mak’Gora their “sacred” dual they have cheated literally every time it happened.
Baine Bloodhoof: “How many times must we forsake our honour?”

Mak’Gora their “sacred” dual they have cheated literally every time it happened.
Playing the Devil’s Advocate here, but the only “rule” of the Mak’gora is basically, refusing a Mak’gora is a dishonorable act and while it is not necesarily always a fight to the death, being spared can be perceived as a grave insult for an orcs
There is no fix rules of a Mak’gora since they are chosen and set by the participants themselves, every Mak’gora thus are different
Garrosh and Cairne chose a few rules, the combat was to the death for example and armor and clothing were forbidden, only a loincloth was allowed, but a blessing of their weapon by a shaman of their choosing was permitted.
It is a misconception that Thrall cheated in his final mak’gora against Garrosh when he used elemental magic (and the Elements turned from him, but it was his tremendous guilt, self-doubt and internal struggle that were the reason for him not hearing the elements anymore after that). However, there has never been any rule forbidding the use of magic and spells.
More so, there is even a precedent for the use of magic in mak’gora, as both Shagara and Ashra made extensive use of it during their mak’gora.
But aside that, yeah, Honor is something the Orcs like to yell, but when it come to practical use, they are very “generous”
Klingons
They are basically Klingons
Mak’Gora. A Shaman blesses each weapon. It is a 1 v 1 dual.
Regardless of if the loser survives or not. The winner can then decide things going forward.

It is a misconception that Thrall cheated in his final mak’gora against Garrosh when he used elemental magic (and the Elements turned from him, but it was his tremendous guilt, self-doubt and internal struggle that were the reason for him not hearing the elements anymore after that).
Not true. Garrosh Hellscream was clearly defeating Thrall during the Mak’Gora that Thrall challenged him to. Thrall ONLY turned the fight around once he used the elements.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pter7BIzxXI&ab_channel=Wowhead
Found it. Timestamp 5:16
Varok Saurfang himself said “A dishonourable blow, I regret it”. “I struck without honour…”
Varok Saurfang the very Orc who told Garrosh Hellscream in Northrend: “Honour no matter how dire the battle NEVER forsake it”. Does NOT practice what he preaches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wc-jsKgxJs&ab_channel=HANKAKORO
The same Garrosh Hellscream. Children kidnapper - used children as hostages - murdered children. Chastises overlord Kromgar.
The Horde killing Horde to strike a blow against the Alliance is nothing new. High Chieftan Cliffwalker had his family and people…murdered by the Horde.
The Horde bomb killed Night Elf Druid trainees, teenagers and children.
The eyes of the Alliance see’s through the hypocrisy of the Horde.
To explain what I mean by: The sins and crimes of Sylvannas are the sins and crimes of the Horde.
As you can see. Malfurion Stormrage on his own convincingly defeated Sylvannas. Although Malfurion Stormrage is no ordinary Night Elf. It does not change the fact that a single Night Elf brought the Warchief of the Horde to…her…knees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJWk5mKCzKk&ab_channel=AndrescrowTV
Timestamp 19:02 for those that doubt Malfurion brought the Warchief to her knees. From an Alliance perspective.
Until Varok Saurfang dishonourably launched a sneak attack in Malfurion’s back (essentially backstab attack).
For all of her boasting and bluster Sylvannas clearly lost to Malfurion.
On her own and with the Forsaken, Sylvannas could not have achieved what she did. Only with the FULL complicity and backing of the entire Horde was she able to do so much. Hence the idea that the Horde Warchief is sperate to the rest of the Horde is undeniably false.
The loss of a Warchief during a a campaign would have effectively demoralised the Horde army, possibly even caused them to march back. When Turalyon slain former Warchief Orgrim Doomhammer the Alliance was victorious. Then the Horde became the responsibility or burden of the Alliance tax payer. To be fed - clothed - housed and taken care of.
Teldrassil would have been wounded yes but able to recover. As Alliance armies could have made it on time to defeat the Horde army.
As the Alliance army was defeating the Horde army at Undercity/ruins of Lordaeron until…just as they done at the Wrathgate, the Horde used plague and blights against both Alliance and the Horde.
If people have made it close to 900 posts. There are clear differences that separates Alliance and Horde. That also addresses the OP initial question of the thread.
Which side is morally better?
The Alliance does shows mercy in victory. The Horde shows no mercy in victory and slaughters all they can.
The Alliance does not harm children. The Horde has a history of kidnapping children - using children as hostages and murdering children.
Horde civilians need not fear the Alliance. Alliance civilians have many reasons to fear the Horde.
The Alliance demonstrates restraint and controlled aggression even in times of War. The Horde has no restraint and indulges in their aggression.
The Alliance does not speak of honour but demonstrates it. The Horde constantly speak of honour but their actions contradict the very honour they claim to have and live for.
Once facts and evidence are presented. People are free for themselves to accept or reject them. But your choices does not change the facts and evidence.
Druids are morally better.

Druids are morally better.
Even the Druids of the Flame?

Druids are morally better.
The tree huggers are actually rather viscious.
The Pack form is uncontrollable then they become a killing machine that wipes out friend and foe.
The Worgen was an uncontrollable curse.
Then there is also the Drust which is the Undead / Death part of Druidism.
You also forget that Horde Druids almost all of them ignore the Horde deforestation efforts against nature.
Druids are not good people.

Even the Druids of the Flame?
Malfurion Stormrage rallied Hyjal’s defenders in a massive counterattack against the fire elementals. They drove Ragnaros’s army back into the Firelands, and with reinforcements from the Horde and the Alliance, the Cenarion Circle stormed into the stronghold known as the Molten Front. Slowly, they pushed deeper into the Firelands until they reached Sulfuron Keep, where Ragnaros fell before the onslaught of Azeroth’s defenders. His greatest lieutenants, including Fandral Staghelm and most of the Druids of the Flame, suffered the same fate. With the Firelord’s destruction, Hyjal was at last spared from his all-consuming flames.
It is unknown if there were any other surviving Druids of the Flame following Fyrakk’s death.
What Druids of the flame?

Just because people worship something does not make them gods.
You practically worship Vulpera. But they are just Vulpera.

Just because people worship something does not make them gods.
You practically worship Vulpera. But they are just Vulpera.
Read warhammer 40k’s warp, by believing or worshiping something or someone. If enough people do that, then it is real. Also logically believing in money makes it have value. Logically things can happen and make them real.
Who in their right mind would allow their lives to be controlled by money. Who would believe it would have any value. Who would accept its use. Yet people do. Money has no value and poeple worshiping it doesnt make it have value. Yet it does have value. The IMF states its because people believe in money. That this gives it value. I just state the same arguement about god.