🔓 Who is in the wrong and who is right? (ninja loot)

So this happened many levels ago while questing. I was doing a difficult quest that involved killing your way through a cave of mobs to then kill a named mob at the very back of the cave. I started making my way through the cave and at the same time wrote in general chat “LFM (Quest name)”. A couple of people /w me and I invited them. I kept clearing the trash mobs inside the cave as they ran towards me from other parts of the zone.

I’d made it about half way though the cave and looted some blue rarity BoE shoulders. I couldn’t use them (or I could if I waited a few levels to 40, but they weren’t that great for me) but the Need or Greed box came up. A Warrior who joined my group for the quest and at this point was approaching the entrance to the cave Need rolled on them.

I rolled Need because I felt it was my BoE drop that I looted before anyone else in the group had made a single piece of contribution towards anything.
I won them and the Warrior in the group went crazy, calling me a ninja and whining and crying like mad.

I want to know other people’s opinion, did he deserve the blue BoE even though he just happened to be in the vicinity while still being outside of the cave after making 0 contribution this far? Or was I right to roll need been as at this point I’d cleared about 10+ mobs solo while waiting for the others to arrive and it dropped from the mob I’d just killed?

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Dont worry about it!
It was your blue! :slight_smile:

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Depends what Blue they were and what class you were on.

They’re yours. Ignore the warrior and keep on playing happily.

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How is this a question? If he didnt contribute in any way shape or form to get them, then why would he have any right to them?

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Well I think you’re probably justified to take it, however always put yourself in the other persons situation. If you joined a group and arrived at the cave as an item dropped, )if you’re close enough to see the roll, you’re close enough to be in cave) and it was taken from you by somebody who doesnt need to use it - would you be bothered?

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they’re 100% yours and that warrior was a moron

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When I’m in a group I only hit the need if it is really a upgrade for me, but I’m aware that other might not do that. If you can’t use it as an upgrade you should let the warrior have it. But unless it is really a item that is best in slot I guess it really doesn’t matter that mutch.

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If i was you in this situation, i would just sell it to him for vendor price.

Absolutely not. He got the chance to roll for them out of pure luck, not because he participated in combat.

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If he was in your group, then yes. So what if someone was invited last, or turned up late? You don’t know why they were late. What if his dog just died or something. If they were on their way to help, then that’s all that matters. I find it quite scummy you kept them even though you didn’t need them. So what if he just got there? What’s wrong with doing a good deed and giving him that item that you didn’t need?
“Classic is all about the helpful community” people say. Pah! Your actions were nothing but spiteful.

Wow so many wrong people… if they were in the group then it doesn’t matter who did what - you’re in a group! If they were close enough to roll and they needed the item but you needed it out of spite (essentially) then you’ve just ninja’d the item! Simple as that. Selfish really.

What you gonna do with the item anyway? Put it on AH in this early economy? Wouldn’t sell anyway.

If I was the warrior I’d have been annoyed too. Don’t wanna share loot? Play solo.

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And what is next, warrior just attacked mob while i attacked it first ?

Or warrior only killed two mobs while i killed 10 so i deserve it.

Or warrior is lower level then me so he doesnt deserve them yet cos i need mount faster?

This are all excuses tbh, he was right, he was there, he was in group, item dropped, he had the right for it.

You can find 101 reasons why not, but none of them holds tbh.

that is why I put it to FFA until people actually arrive to my location.

you were absolutely in the right to take them.

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Pretty much this.

If he contributed nothing yet, I don’t see why he should be entitled to that loot. I mean, I don’t blame him for rolling need on it, but I do blame him for flaming you and calling you a ninja, he has no “right” to it as far as I am concerned.

If it were me in his shoes I would simply have asked you if I could have had it, but I don’t think it’s any reason to cry foul to you. Especially since people in general seem to agree that you should always roll need on BoE blue and purple world drops.

Funny thing, if I were in your shoes I would have given it to him if he had asked nicely, but if he had started calling me a ninja I would have vendored it in front of his face.

Except the “group content” they were doing hadn’t started yet. So none of those group rules apply yet.

Always roll need on BOE world drops. Granted, it WOULD have been nice to share it with the warrior if it were an upgrade for them, but I don’t believe you can demand others to share. That’s ridiculous. “If you don’t give money to me you’re just selfish boohoo!”

Vendor it, save it for later to put on the AH, who knows?

I would be too. But then, I am also sensible enough to realize that I hadn’t done anything yet, and I am thus in no way “entitled” to that loot. And I CERTAINLY don’t have any grounds to cry foul about it.

The only thing OP should have done differently is put on FFA loot when people are still arriving.

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Good to know. Now I can slack my way through classic, because…you know…my dog just might have died.

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He probs wanted to sell them anyway, blues do sell even this early on. I wouldnt even bat an eyelid at his temper, fact is that grind to the mount at 40 id need on every boe blue you come accross if you win and somone flames offer to sell it to them, at the end of the day why shoukd anyone end up out of pocket even if someone does need them, hed replace at somepoint anyway

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Same with you…nice to know that some people can kill 1 mob and others 20 but they still feel they deserve the same treatment. You guys are turning classic into retail…one dumb post at a time.

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If you’re in a group then the group has begun - not when you decide it is convenient.

I have never seen this supposed etiquette that everyone needs on world drops.

This isn’t someone begging for gold this is an item that dropped in a group situation - that was ninja’d by the OP.

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#Agree with the above post.

All these moans and whines are showing the reasons that Blizzard implemented “Personal Loot”.

There is no justification for you having preferential treatment if you are in a group with someone, By grouping everyone in the group has the same right to the drops.

It is down to each individual party member if they want to be “fair” and roll need if they do genuinenly need it.

Could have argued that you should have waited until all the group were present before starting to fight.