Why am I being kicked from dungeons?

[Saneko-ragnaros (Saneko)]

@Papawisky-mirage-raceway

When is the last time that anyone has had a conversation in a dungeon which lead to people arguing and abusing each other to the extent that removing someone felt necessary?

Sometimes, but not often.

@Papawisky-mirage-raceway

Can the game not automatically detect if you are afk?

There was an iteration that did so, and they just auto followed and did some spells here and there and continued being AFK.

@Papawisky-mirage-raceway

Why is manual input by players necessary if this system gets abused more often than it is used for legitimate purposes?

The legitimate purpose is the removal of players by the majority’s will within a party, which is its intended goal.

In fact, recent community feedback added an in progress debuff upon leaving or kicking as well:

Loot Leavers

We’re currently working on a hotfix that will implement the Deserter debuff for players who leave a Group Finder dungeon early. This penalty will apply to early leavers in all Group Finder dungeons. Thank you for your feedback!

@Papawisky-mirage-raceway

The vote to kick system is a scam and isn’t needed at all.

It is required for sure.

@Vrakthris

The debuff itself has been part of the system almost since the Vote to Kick system was introduced. It became an unfortunate necessity as certain players would urge the group, by request or by being a nuisance, to vote them out in order to avoid receiving a deserter debuff.

Proposals so far include but not limited to:

• “Reduced cooldowns stacking upwards” so that if you aren’t kicked often, it starts with a minor debuff.
• “Reduced cooldowns, stacking downwards” so if you’re in a “good” party, then when they surprisepikachu kick you at the end the cooldown is lower.
• “Warning before Debuff” - When you get removed from dungeon you get a Warning but allows you to requeue, if you get kicked again you get debuffed on subsequent leaves.
• “Add reporting for kicking” - This is akin FF where they investigate if someone is really, really using votekick so often and gets reported for it that often as well. WoW used to do this.

If you have a proper suggestion, you may submit it through the ingame feedback box. I also would like to know to see if the suggestion can be improved making it into a better experience for everyone involved.