Every single player. Every one if them. Level a new character to 60 BOOM, 240 level gear.
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Also you’re only at 201.
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I mean, yes, I know.
I think the implication that 2400 is somehow easily attained by anyone and people are just pulling 233 weapons out of thin air by just stepping into PvP is completely ridicilous.
Avg people will be getting the kind of ilevels I am.
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imagine getting 211 ilvl with just PVP
This has to be NERFEd asap,
Yes you get 240 instantly from pve every pve player has 240 nowadays. U can see I’m 201 but that’s pvp gear dude. Trinkets and all.
This… an all around player that does everything can and will get more gear out of the game, it’s just common sense.
If you just do one area of the game, you’re limited to that.
Also all those PVE players that are 226ilvl or whatever, they’ve bought a part of their gear too, guess what, as a PVP player you can also do that, anyone can. (except me cause i’m poor 
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Avg people will get 200 ilvl actually. 
Avg means around the 50%, which is basically below 1400 rating atm.
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And you are unaware that you can kill all 10 bosses in hc in a week and NOT get a single drop?. x that by x weeks and all you may get is an item at 213, if you don’t already have it or its secondaries are total garbage. PvE Rng, PvP be FoTM class and spec and gg loot plz… See, goes both ways if you want.
Less skill? Go you Mr/Mrs/whatever pro. The amount of PvP failbots that attempt keys above 5 and constantly screw it up is probably on par with PvE fails, who are only doing PvP to try and get a weapon. PvE scripted, like PvP isn’t just about being the right class, FoTm, pewpewpew… Noooo.
Despite the fact that Mythic 15 chest gives only 226 gear and the highest you can get from daddy Nathrius on Mythic is 233?
Something’s not quite right.
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It’s odd isn’t it? Damn those pve players and their insane ilvl…
** Looks at my ilvl **
Did you pull that figure out of your posterior?
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buys ilvl 226 full set from AH
look at me i am ilvl 226 
If i m not mistaken they were said about 36K USD about that spent in real money.
exept i do get to around 1400 or so last season and doing around 900 this one(when im playing pvp that is not a lot but i do), so i do know how the rating system works, just not into going after higher rating(or good enough to push it very far and I have never said i was good enough at pvp for that).
Last part is obvious. So what exactly is it that is “except” in all this? What do your personal 900 rating plays have to do with what I said exactly?
I’m sitting at 202 only doing PvP 
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Difference is most world first raiders are usually accomplished pvpers also. Hense why most of them gear so efficiently.
That said, PvP is far more reliable with gearing. Having a vendor just eliminates the bad luck some people have had. I know people with 10/10 HC cleared every week since week one with only an item or two to show for it. PvP is definitely the way to go for any spec which values verse. Far easier and consistent.
proving that i do know how the raiting system works(as given with having rating not high but having it), then you talk about how hc raids give you 213 with pvp only giving 200 where that is only true if you got no raiting(as i pointed out) the funny part is if you dont kill a raid boss you get no loot at all not even in the vault even if you loss all your rated matches you still get a 200ilvl item in the vault that is possible to upgrade if/when you get the rating for it, the raid loot can not be upgraded.
so my rating only has something to do with you stating i dont have any and dont know anything about it where my rating proves that wrong.
now i dont really want to argue with a pvp “elitist” and that is how you come over to me, as your aguments boil down to from where i stand is you dont have x amount of rating so your opinion is worthless and that can be turned around and said you dont have x amount of kills in raid so anything you say about that is worthless and in my opinion that line of argumentation is worthless in and off itself.
Agree, disable all trinket effects etc. and scale the gear down in instanced pvp content! 
I didn’t say that. If you are going to start picking on what I say, go and bloody read what I say before you comment please. I replied to some guy who said, and I quote: Filling conquest just spam some arenas, shouldn’t take more than an hour in a pug, with “Filling conquest provides 200 ilvl, heroic raids provide 213 ilvl.”.
If you are incapable of reading the implication, it was according to him that someone can just randomly fill conquest and get heroic item level, which wasn’t true. That person would also need to have a rating threshold, which that guy never actually got in his life.
Your lack of ever reaching any rating was to highlight that you shouldn’t intervene in a dispute about the difficulty of attaining a certain rating, because you have no clue how easy or difficult it is since you never did it before.
Yes, your opinion is worthless when it comes to judging the difficulty of attaining rating you never actually played at. I stand by that. And yes, my opinion is worthless if I start making considerations about castle nathria in particular. I never played it, I have no clue how it is. Difference from you however is that I have done mythic raids in the past on occasion while they were current, so even if I completely lack the perspective for the current ones, I at least have a broad idea of how mythic raiding is, but that being said, when people who raid tell me castle nathria is a really hard raid I actually do believe them, because I lack the reference to consider otherwise.
So bottom line: when you interceded in a discussion between me and someone else about the difficulty of attaining pvp rating, then yes your opinion on that matter is worthless, because not only you didn’t do it now, but you never in your whole WoW playtime ever played at high rating, so you wouldn’t have a frame of reference.