What does it matter which icon im using on my profile here? Lol
I’m hearing you say defensives for feral are weak. Then Im hearing Venruki, Supatease and several other players I know for a fact are good players with a lot of game knowledge say feral survivability is very good. Do with that info what you want.
because they are , i agree our damage profile is insanely broken atm and in hope they tune it down but defensive wise we have the worst defensives in the entire game.
oh a mage that constantly cried for feral nerfs before it was broken , when frost is OP wants them buffed , Venruki is biased and i dislike him as a player and person , moving on.
boomkin main never touched feral , boomkins don’t have it as bad since their form has baseline armour and they can cast 99% of spells in boomkin form, moving on.
people that probably played feral in legion 
no feral mains mentioned yet. also i know an AWC Feral Champ that can confirm that Defensives are bad and Damage is broken
players that 100% dont main feral , i wanna ask every single one of them and i bet they only played feral as an alt , funny how you are passivley trying to make me look like i have 0 knowledge about my spec when youre the only one making a clown out of yourself here , no hard feelings buddy but please i dare you to make a feral and reach atleast 1900 cr and then you can yap here on the forums “How broken feral defensives” are because they are not broken at all.
only thing that is broken is damage and flat 20% nerf will solve your problem , i don’t only pvp i did m+ too and i was top 8 in the world in s3 DF and even in PVE feral defensives lack so its not only issue in pvp but in pve aswell again il quote Defensives not damage
Defensives need a rework on this spec badly
Damage? needs nerf
There’s a fairly recent video supatease posted, where he’s playing feral in arena. Probably less than 2 weeks old.
-Why are Blizzard refusing to nerf ferals?
While, I dont work at Blizzard, I dont know a single person asside from some artists (as i am an artist myself) who work there. I can give my PvP centric guess.
So Im a feral of 10 + years.
Ferals are the class who lost the most of their toolkit.
Starting from being able to passively dodge (45~%)
Now before you jump to conclussions and be like “WeLL tHaTs Not SO TruE”
Just make a wish for your class but whatever you wished for is given to everyone else.
Thats exactly how feral is treated.
Ferals used to be kings of mobility but lackluster in terms of immunities and strong defensives, accompanied with self healing.
With time selfhealing and offhealing has been like a cosmetic button that you would press only outside of the arena and outside of combat for their healing is so toned down, not to mention we lost Yseras and Leader of the packs passive healing along with, lifebloom, and most of all- Swiftmend.
So now that this is gone lets move to mobility.
Ferals mobility didnt move much- we’re also the only melee that still has to cast Convoke/Cyclone and we also got just a single charge of our gap closer/opener in comparison to any other melee, with mobility wise everything else remains pretty much the same throughout expansions aside from powershifting being limited to 2 abilities. But the main issue comes with what other classes are given- so every other class have way too many gap closers, so much so that me as a feral can only kyte an Enhancement shaman and Arms Warrior and thats sololy in 1v1 scenario in 2v2,3v3,10v10 its gonna be completely worse for me.
I also started to struggle connecting to casters, as they’re given more and more mobility traits. Probably the only caster I dont struggle connecting is Shadow Priest and Warlocks.
Lets go to defensives now: Ferals main defensives are 5min and 3 min cooldown-wise long. On top of that Bear form armor has been nerfed by 150% (making it so while we are in bear form our armor is identical ot a simple plate dpser) along with bear forms healing which is also nerfed from 32% to 20% for 4 secs. (in comparison rogues heal for 30% if they hit vanish and they heal for 25% for 4 secs. with Crimson Vial which has lower CD than bear regeneration). Add to that that most classes even melees all have either bleeds or some sort of spell damage instead of doing purely physical damage- your bear form is usefulness drops down even further.
While Barkskin and Bear form sound great in theory if we just draw the comparison to what other classes have - 100% dodge/parry ,along with other immunities, abilities like Cloak, hell we dont even have a Vanish ability so we’re locked into playing Night Elves.
Speaking about restealthing- did you know that Ferals got no other opener aside from Rake- stun ? So like if you dont wonna waste stun DR, you have to lose 30% of your most powerful bleed (rake) and lose 15 more energy than you would normally use if you open with Rake?
Or the fact that Typhoon (already being a really clunky knockback) shares an invisible DR with Ursols Vortex- in comparison to monks who can knock you back 123121 times and still be able to use Ring of Peace on you.
Another issue that I forgot to mention is the button bloat is already crazy but we can add Wild Growth(an ability that i dont even have on my bars lmfao), Rejuvenation ( that idk why we even have at this point) and Regrowth ( an ability that is yet an other dead keybind in arena because of dampening)
Speaking about Dampening- Dampening disproportionately affects hybrids like enha shamans, rets and ferals. Along with the tiny space that limits your kyting.
Ferals do not excel in anything but damage.
And their damage is broken. I totally agree with every claim of this sort.
But the issue about it is - to nerf feral means to kill the spec entirely and the spec has been underdog during its whole existence, and it shined 3 times throughout its entire carreer for 3 seasons for its entire existence as i put it.
During wrath- cata , 1st season of DF and 1st season of TWW.
I think next season its gonna be nerfed
However as ive always said- i rather they rework feral and modernize it instead.
Less problems for the future + everyone will be happy.
its just defensive toolkit got pruned so hard , we could use heart of the wild and cen ward to passive heal and it was our strongest source of healing not to mention we also had ursoc’s might which turned us into bear form and gave us flat 30% hp increase , there is so much that got pruned and stuff that stayed got nerfed by 90% in pvp
compare cata feral’s defensive or MoP and you will see what broken feral looks like , peak feral design was mop imo and if we got mop design with current trees feral would be amazing but when feral was actually broken was WoD, Legion and Shadowlands .
right now feral is only broken damage wise but defensives are far far from broken and they lack aloooooooot
Is that why every single RMP team outside of Echo is playing FMP atm? Make it make sense
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