I know this title sounds really mean, but I’ve been trying to get into roleplaying but I feel like people are always being jerks and anti fun.
Holding on to lore so much that it’s preventing all sorts of fun stories to evolve. If you look at the Blizzard quests, so many interesting stuff happens, but when it comes to loreplay everything needs to be 100% realistic and grounded. Let people have a little fun, it’s a fantasy game.
Everyone out here seems to just want to win arguments.
Some of the people on here are some of the snobbiest I’ve ever met and really couldn’t hurt from just not taking it so seriously.
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Lore should be kept as its stated and abided, as in don’t go against the established lore. Although, following the lore does not prevent fun stories and more light-hearted RP from happening.
There’s always wiggle-room in RP, as long as it doesn’t outright break it. Yet at the same time, having someone tell you OOC that:
“No you can’t use that two-handed weapon because it’s too large for a average 183 CM human to wield”
or
No, your character can’t be two meters tall because during “medieval times” it was exceptionally rare due to the diet avaible bla bla bla
That’s not as much as “following lore” or holding said lore to high regard. That’s just being petty and pedantic.
But yes, it is a fantasy universe, and the laws of the “norm” is very much out the window in many areas, because fantasy (We’ve got magical dimension-traveling space ships, gods and magic itself).
In the end, it’s all about finding the middle path, and if you want to do something crazy, have an equally crazy (but feasible explanation). If someone starts complaining about petty details, just move on and avoid them. They’ll screech and howl all the same as soon as someone doesn’t uphold their hyper-focus on “reality”.
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I both sort of agree and sort of disagree. I think there is a tendency for some RP’ers to lean into this super gritty, low-fantasy “Game of Thrones”-esque style of RP. Which, if you enjoy that, is totally fine! But I’m a player who likes the whimsical, high-fantasy hijinks that goes on a lot in the world of Azeroth, so I can also really relate to the fact that a fair few “low-fantasy” RP’ers can be quite pushy and quite preachy whenever they see something that breaks the mold even slightly.
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I agree with you here. It’s just, some things are very vague and open to interpretation or subjective. Nonetheless people feel the need to either insert their headcanon or turn it into an endless argument just to prove they’re right. I also just feel like the Warcraft universe is full of quirky moments, and just because something hasn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it’s impossible…
I wish I could post some example of what happened but I don’t want to call people out or make anyone uncomfortable. I just feel this community isn’t always as nice as it acts to be. For newcomers it feels to me like a lot of friends/guilds just banding together and caring about status.
This sounds like it’s coming off the back of people not wanting Dark Rangers chilling out in Stormwind.
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If anything AD is far less rigid these days. Probably has to do with the absolute banger of a track record of Blizzard themselves not taking their setting seriously.
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Common sense is your best friend, in the end. While there is a lot of room in RP, or some things are “vague” as you say (which is correct) there’s always a red thread, or some form of conclusion to pull from it.
“Oh Jaina and Kalegos were dating at one point, therefore it’s possible I am their secret half-dragon child IC” being a conclusion you could draw from vagueness, although not rooted in said common sense.
Using the excuse of “oh I am just having fun” can thread the very blurry line between ‘comedic’ RP and just outright BadRP, depending on who you speak/interact with.
Equally so, declaring that people are “hostile to RP” because they don’t accept whatever you decided you wanted to do in RP isn’t a good choice, neither.
In the end, we all accept different things in RP. Some are just more in the majority, ala:
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I think a lot of the players who had a heck to give also just left, or went somewhere else. So those that are left are either casually dipping their toes in or in such a minority that they’re easy to ignore.
A lot of this depends on where and with who you hang out. I have seen a lot of different RP, both the gritty grimdark “low fantasy” (there is a lot wrong with that term too, but that’s a different discussion) and the super high fantasy type. Both exist on the server and both forms also come in forms that either support or discard the lore.
I don’t feel Argent Dawn has become stricter or more loose when it comes to the “low vs high fantasy” debate. Both freely exist on this server – and in all honesty, variety is strength to a realm like Argent Dawn – but again, it all depends on where you are looking for RP.
Stormwind has its fair share of rather fantastical characters, sometimes too much so; RPing out in the Norfern wilds nets you you a lot more subdued, grimdark kind of concepts who may focus more on the realism than the fantasy. If you feel your circle is too restrictive – or perhaps not restrictive enough – then it can help to find other people to RP with.
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If fun was allowed in World of Warcraft then we wouldn’t be cheering when a new expansion doesn’t have a feature in it.
In all seriousness, I think this is a ‘vocal minority’ type deal. The fact of the matter is that if people don’t take issue with you, they likely won’t say anything, so the voices of the people who see fit to be pedantic are louder.
I don’t play this game to have fun. I play this game because I’ve sunk over 15 years into it, and at this point I do not want to let go because of all the time, energy and money invested into this.
The dread keeps me awake at night.
What were we talking about? Oh, right.
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Its just a seperation from those who take the lore seriously when immersing and those who don’t I guess
I like both btw, low fantasy more medieval type rp and the more fantastical adventurer/monsters/world threats ect type rp aswell, I have characters suited to both
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Kinda curious to know what concept wasn’t welcomed.
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Same here. I know there’s RPers that take it way too far to le real life realism but there’s also people who take any slightly grey/ambiguous lore as a cause to go pedal to the metal
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Listen Tehya it is well within the confines of established lore than forsaken regiments loyal to the Dark Lady would have fled Orgrimmar to establish hidden bases on the underside of the flat planet of Outland, and in this essay I will prove…
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I’m not sure if ‘low fantasy’ means you can’t enjoy the high fantasy aspect.
I personally enjoy being low fantasy in a high fantasy universe because marvelling with your character at the universe around them appeals to me. The highs are higher and the lows are lower when you’re the underdog, right?
So many good stories revolve around the character overcoming odds & tragedy and I think that’s a staple ppl just enjoy if I’m honest
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I think when people talk about “low Fantasy” versus “high fantasy” it’s not as much the individual characters, as it is how some people take the attitude that an archmage can barely muster a fireball, and a paladin can at best mend a papercut.
What you’re describing sounds like a really cool approach!
I agree. My personal favourite blend is high fantasy through a “low fantasy” aesthetic (I hate that term). At the risk of sounding like a broken record, The Last Guardian incorporates both of these really well because although the story is told from the POV of mages, it acknowledges that they’re surrounded by normal people which provides a great contrast. Magic is powerful even in the hands of an apprentice which is why there’s an in-universe saying repeated by Anduin Lothar: “An ostler has a mood and he kicks a dog. A mage has a mood and a town disappears.”
Acknowledging the mundane makes the high fantasy stuff truly stand out in contrast and both are enhanced in my opinion. You don’t need to equip a flashy tier set to be high fantasy by any means. I prefer it when things are grounded in common sense and “reality”, and the fantastical elements build on top of that foundation instead of completely demolishing it.
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