Why aren't the High Elves and Amanis the races featured in Midnight?

Tell me please exactly what would be the aesthetic difference between a blood elf and a high elf? Like nothing? Especially in armor?
Why would we need a 4th (5th even if we count highborne) elven race that is super boring instead of having something awesome as amani trolls, ogres, ethereals you name it - anything but an elf.

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Like having 3 types of dwarves :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

You’re asking what’s the difference between Blood Elves and High Elves? Well, lore-wise it’s literally night and day. Blood Elves embraced fel magic, addiction and went Horde. High Elves didn’t. They stayed Alliance, kept their old traditions and identity, and have been around since Warcraft II.

Sure, in armor they might “look the same” to someone who only cares about pixels, but to the players who’ve been asking for them for 20 years, it’s about history, faction identity, and finally being able to play the race that’s been standing with the Alliance all this time.

And let’s be honest - people aren’t begging Blizzard for Ogres for two decades straight. :woman_facepalming:

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Well the difference between the two is how light reflects off the surface of them.
otherwise they are both primary colors, not even oppesites.
Kind of like the thalassian elves whos primary differene is also only reflected on the surface while they both share the same biology, language, heretige and culture, (since the sunwell got better)

:dracthyr_uwu:

Ogres are actually a unique and interesting race. High elves are a copy paste of blood elves with blue eyes. That’s it.-

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I’ll find you in Azeroth and spank your smooth pink :peach: :imp:

sucks to suck I guess. Enjoy not having high elves ever.

First not our decision to make Void elves playable. That was Blizzard in a last miunte decision or it was a woman at Blizzard. Her void elf Npc is Stormwind.

Second what’s the different aesthetic diffrences between a Night elf and Nightborne elf from afar? They have same animations and stands so from afar players think the Nightborne is a Night elf.

Third Horde players always fought Alliance High elf Npc when leveling a new horde character. Be it a Blood elf, orc, Tauren, Forsaken etc etc. In dustwallow marsh horde players need to Kill 5/5 Elf scout of the Alliance for the ogres. In TBC the Allerian stronghold High elves or Wrath the Silver covenant or in BFA the 7th legion High elves. In Wow Vanilla as there was NO Blood elf in the Horde back then as Blood elves were hostile towards everyone and Alliance High elves were everywhere in Alliance areas and Horde players fought Alliance High elves.

Four. We have High elves on both sides of the factions with different politics and when there is a race on both faction, they are made to be played by both sides however not the High elves for Alliance. The Pandaren is on both factions with different politics and have same customizations on both side and same can be said for Dracthyr and Earthen.

So what would be the difference making Alliance High elves playable when Horde players always fought High elf npc Since wow Vanilla. They look similar? well duh when Blizzard “gives” an “Alliance race” to the Horde. Not that it made sense but out of “necessity”. But they are there now, We just ask for the High elves that has always been in the Alliance and fought with the Alliance and never left.

Although the Blood elves “Did” walk a darker path in order to find a new source of power which was fel. But in TBC it was the Alliance that saved them “From themshelves” and sparked/reignited the Sunwell…did the Horde do that??? NO…it was “the Alliance” and it cured the Blood elves from their fel corruption.

And the “Not enough High elves to make them playable” does not work anymore as they made void elves that wasa squad of Blood elves of 23 people playable and Vulpera that have only few wagons and are nomads, not living in one place as the snake people hunted them down to extinction level. The Mag’har orcs was only handfull that made it to Azeroth and still was made playable. Darkspear trolls that was only hanfull from 1 village, Taurens that was 1 village as Centaurs hunted them down to extinction level aswell.

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as a horde player based
they need to redraw the lines between us my sub isn’t going to survive another expac of following around alliance leaders
and if they’re gonna make crystalsong a hard alliance area the way starter areas are the horde should have 0 bases in there players can access

as someone who wants factions to be defined, the KOS was great, especially cause I felt it meant that the same would count for us when they eventually give stormwind this treatment. The 2/3rds of smc being open to everyone is now a downer in comparison

1.) Void Elves were clearly created to give Alliance players a thalassian elf option that was distinct from Blood Elves, who are authentic High Elves. I don’t believe it was the decision of any one individual, even though I regard the decision as a complete a*s-pull and it would have been better had the Horde received Undead Elves using the Thalassian model and the Alliance received Nightborne (and it easily could have been written that way). They were made slightly different to preserve distinction, but some eventually normal skin tones were provided for player fantasy…though only to a point. Not only has there not been a single Void Elf NPC who uses Blood Elf skin tones, but Void Elves when pierced with a piercing weapon still bleed purple, have void themed racials, speak with a reverb effect. A Void Elf is NOT a High Elf.

2.) The ‘from afar’ is an unnecessary qualifier because the overuse of the Night Elf model now means that ‘from afar’ can apply to someone who is Night Elf, Nightborne, Zandalari Troll and Haronir. Up close is what matters and Nightborne have upswept rather than backswept ears, truly dark purple skin tones, a thinner build in the case of males and a distinctly limited hair palette clearly designed to evoke traditional Dark Elves.

3.) There are occasional High Elves in the employ of the Alliance, but they are not and have not been a major faction for quite a while. In fact, while you may not like to hear this, Void Elves have replaced Alliance High Elves as the Alliance’s de facto Thalassian counterpart. We know for example there are Void Elves bases in the Voidstorm, and the map we were shown indicates that the Horde equivalent maybe Blood Elven. In other words, Void Elves replaced High Elves, whose already brutally low numbers have been degraded since classic considerably (with some even choosing to become Void Elves it seems).

4.) The Pandaren were conceived as neutral and the vast majority of Pandaren are neutral, with only individuals chosing to become Alliance or Horde. In contrast the Blood Elves were introduced fully as a Horde member race, complete with a home territory.

And the other races you cite do have low populations, but their low populations are equivalent to the depleted Blood Elves. Alliance High Elves, indistinguishable from Blood Elves save for their politics, are even lower again (and with the Void Elves, superfluous to requirements).

There’s also the out of game reason.

The loudest voices do not necessarily equate to the popular one. You are arguing for the addition of a race to the game that for all intents and purposes already exists. This however would take up a slot and a lot of people would then judge these ‘High Elves’ by the lost opportunity cost of whatever could have been added in their place. And a race that is identical in every way to an already existing way is probably the worst thing you can add to the game…which is why Void Elves had the void twist when they were added.

Still, I want to emphasise we are having a post-mortem. Just as with Ogres in Warlords of Draenor, if Blizzard WERE ever going to add High Elves as you want them…this was literally the moment to do so.

They didn’t. They added Haronir.

Take the hint.

reason why they dont add high elfs even tho theres 2 high elfs in game arathor and windrunner sister Vere.

You can already play a high elf in both factions (Void Elf + Blood Elf) stop. Both races are high elves, just different name.

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Play Blood / Void Elf. Find fitting transmog.
Play Zandalari / OG Troll. Find fitting transmog.

If they add a new “race” for every single sub-faction of a base one, it would be a balancing nightmare not to mention a waste of resources for you to RP as one. Granted, the ones already existing were also a total waste because they are just copy-pastes and not originals. Yes this includes Vulpera, they are just re-skinned Goblins with a minorly modified animation set.

Use your imagination. Use TRP3. Works wonders.

Oh, you sweet summer child. You clearly do not know the demands of the High Elves :smiley:

Blood Elves with Blue Eyes aren’t good enough. Cause they’re Horde and they want access to Stormwind for RP.

Void Elves with Blue Eyes aren’t good enough. Cause they reveal their true identity when entering combat.

They will never be happy, until they get some boring LOTR Low-fantasy elves, that are just boring and generic. What’s even more sad, is they’re trying to retcon their story to fit their own boring narrative. A lot of them thinks the High elves are Loyal and Good, totally ignoring their history of basically ignoring the humans and only sending them a small force because they were obligated to. But otherwise, they’re isolationists, who mostly cares only about themselves and their own.

But they will deny their history and try to say that’s only the “Blood Elves” like changing their name also changed their entire societal structure and behavior.

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Because, once again. Blizzard refused to do the obvious. Instead tossing fuel on the fire they made and only they can fix.

Because of the entire faction system that locks you out of quite a lot of the games content…

Because it was not that which had been requested for 12 years by that point.

Well, yeah. Because that is what we have requested and what blizzard have repeatedly present us.

Rather, it’s only some who try to debate opportunities that could satisfy individuals like you… who argue in bad faith…

Um, no? They have basically been magic-addicts since they were properly introduced. They have never simply been boring generic elves. Their entire addiction is what makes the Warcraft High/Blood Elves unique.

Weren’t you also the one in another post who argued that “High Elves would never drain a living creature of Energy.” and that that’s a Trait they picked up after becoming Blood Elves?

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The entire faction system, due to it’s nature of splitting the player-base and large parts of the game, pretty much kills this argument. Had any race been free to pick any faction, then yeah having duplicates would be redundant. That is not the case here.

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BURN THE FACTIONS!

All i want is Dark Iron Demon hunter i don’t really care any new races maybe Iron Dwarves from Northrend other than that i would rather see more customization for races we already have and opening all classes for all races.