Why call it a "catch up gear" when it really doesnt let you catch up

[Furyeclipser-stormscale]

@Gram-ghostlands

The Legion Invasions you mean?

No, invasion points on Argus. There is a weekly major invasion, and few minor ones.

Legions invasion were great too, especially for leveling.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

@Breaths-twisting-nether

exactly. you get catch up gear from m+ faster than catch up events lol
and then there are people defending this just like they defend everything giving 430 gear to returning players in last month won’t take anything away from others. if you say ‘‘but we worked too hard in last 5 months’’ then welcome to the hell called seasonal content, your gear will be trash in a month anyway.

Or maybe you don’t understand that the people the catch up gear is aimed at don’t do M plus

The vendor will give you an item a week at 415 level that is on the Champion Track. There are also the gear token drops which you can send to alts or use on yourself at 402.

None of this is aimed at people who already do M plus or other organised content in the game.

It also brought a load of collectibles ofc for those of us who like that kind of thing.

[Gram-ghostlands (Gram)]

@Furyeclipser-stormscale

invasion points on Argus

I don’t remember the gear from those.
But I didn’t engage much with Argus, I just hated that place. It was my least favourite zone until the Maw said hold my beer…

[Furyeclipser-stormscale]

Gear is sold on space ship.

[Gram-ghostlands (Gram)]

@Punyelf-draenor

The vendor will give you an item a week at 415 level that is on the Champion Track. There are also the gear token drops which you can send to alts or use on yourself at 402

I didn’t realise this yesterday.
This does make this system a good addition to the Time Rifts and Caverns.
My paladin is 67 and I might work up the enthuses to level now. I might be able to sent over some items from Gram.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

This is the quest that gives you the Dreamsurge Chrysalis you need for the vendor (then vendor and quest giver are the same npc).

The gear also works in the catalyst which allowed me to convert the last heroic piece I was missing from my collection for Aberrus.

[Gram-ghostlands (Gram)]

@Punyelf-draenor

This is the quest that gives you the Dreamsurge Chrysalis

I did get a quest at Ruby life shrine yesterday, don’t know what it’s called (Investigating Dream Surges or something).
I voted for something with the npc near him but there wasn’t anything on the map so I looked at a guide and it said there were every half hour. There was 20 minutes to wait so I went and did something else instead. I’ll look again today.

[Warlóór-steamwheedle-cartel]

@Kickasslee-ragnaros

probably farm 1 per week. Please do not time gate this blizzard.

@Kickasslee-ragnaros

probably farm 1 per week. Please do not time gate this blizzard.

is not timegating

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

It’s like this every time I go to the vendors/quest givers, they are under there, somewhere!

[Vicktor-aszune]

The gear is ok but Blizzard are being pretty stingy with it. I’m beginning to suspect Scrooge McDuck is working for them.

[anon8701015]

@Vicktor-aszune

The gear is ok but Blizzard are being pretty stingy with it. I’m beginning to suspect Scrooge McDuck is working for them.

Wdym stingy? You literally get normal raiding gear for logging into this game.

If they wanna do a gear progression up to 441 for world content players, sure, but they should make it very very grindy. What they did now is just some weird instant gratification

[Tahra-earthen-ring (Tahra)]

@Gram-ghostlands

But I didn’t engage much with Argus, I just hated that place. It was my least favourite zone until the Maw said hold my beer…

I feel exactly the same.

@anon8701015

Wdym stingy?

1 wyrm crest per week IS stingy.
And that’s IF you choose that reward and not one of the items; in which case it would an item and 0 wyrm crests.

For a patch that’s near its end, it’s stingy.

@Punyelf-draenor

It’s like this every time I go to the vendors/quest givers, they are under there, somewhere!

Yeah, they should make a no mount zone around those NPCs like they did with the time rift area.

[anon8701015]

@Tahra-earthen-ring

1 wyrm crest per week IS stingy.
And that’s IF you choose that reward and not one of the items; in which case it would an item and 0 wyrm crests.

For a patch that’s near its end, it’s stingy.

No, it’s not really stingy considering you get it for logging in basically and spend 10 minutes, but the way they reward and do world content imo is just stupid and only caters to people, who just want instant rewards for logging in…

[Tahra-earthen-ring (Tahra)]

@anon8701015

No, it’s not really stingy considering you get it for logging in basically and spend 10 minutes, but the way they reward and do world content imo is just stupid and only caters to people, who just want instant rewards for logging in…

Okay Mr. Elitist. Thanks for your input.

[anon8701015]

@Tahra-earthen-ring

Okay Mr. Elitist. Thanks for your input.

The problem is the time investment / difficulty is too low, not that they get it. What is the point of normal or heroic raiding now, when you get all gear instantly from this by logging in once per week for 10 minutes. It’s a very short-sighted system by blizzard, but not as if I expect better considering that their world content reward system has been awful.

Overall I think that item level as the entire progression system in such a multi-layered MMO like wow with different audiences is not enough.

[Lilíith-draenor]

@Korikasai-mirage-raceway

@Furyeclipser-stormscale

402 more than good to start m+ing.

I think my ilevel 415 guy is very low…

Imagine spending a week trying to get 402.

Just toss some gold to boosters, and you’ll be 430 before someone else is 402.

and then you will realise that 430 is also very low and you will be declined from like 95% of groups - and those 5 % who accept you - well - you really dont want to join them in first place

[Tahra-earthen-ring (Tahra)]

@anon8701015

What is the point of normal or heroic raiding now, when you get all gear instantly from this by logging in once per week for 10 minutes

It’s the end of the season. Those who were interested in doing those raids, have done them by now.

@anon8701015

when you get all gear instantly from this by logging in once per week for 10 minutes

That’s complete hyperbole.
Nobody is asking for THAT. Just more than 1 crest per week.

In the way it currently is, it would take 4 weeks to upgrade an item to 437.
That’s multiple months for an entire set (if you want to unlock just the transmog it’s a little bit less, but still 3 weeks per piece). That’s just too long when we’re at the end of a season.

And yes, that time can be shortened by doing 7 LFR bosses every week. But that’s not world content.

[anon8701015]

@Tahra-earthen-ring

That’s complete hyperbole.
Nobody is asking for THAT. Just more than 1 crest per week.

In the way it currently is, it would take 4 weeks to upgrade an item to 437.
That’s multiple months for an entire set (if you want to unlock just the transmog it’s a little bit less, but still 3 weeks per piece). That’s just too long when we’re at the end of a season.

Ready precisely again what I said

[Tahra-earthen-ring (Tahra)]

@anon8701015

Ready precisely again what I said

@anon8701015

when you get all gear instantly from this by logging in once per week for 10 minutes

That’s what you said. Literally.
I reacted to it. Maybe you should read what I said?

[Netsjerian-argent-dawn]

@Tahra-earthen-ring

It’s the end of the season.

it is not the end of the season.

@Tahra-earthen-ring

hose who were interested in doing those raids, have done them by now.

My guild is on the last boss (heroic), still trying.

@Tahra-earthen-ring

That’s multiple months for an entire set

The season will also still take multiple months.