Read the rest of my post. My DPS friend has no problem at all, either. Didn’t have problems at 375 iLevel, no problems at 400 now, either. If you don’t aim for keys way above your level, finding a group is not an issue.
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Just thought I’d take the time to wish you all a happy weekend thread.
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Thanks man, you have a good one too!
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What? Hours? No, a few minutes at most.
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Because Mythic dungeons are locked after a week so let’s say 123 people want to queue up for mythic finder. And let’s assume all of them wanted to do Atal’Dazar. 120 of those people would be able to queue up and get Atal’Dazar and the other 3 wouldn’t be able to because there are only 3 and you need 5.
It’s so simple to make a normal mythic group and it requires literally no effort or time, if you aren’t picky with who you invite than it takes less than 10 minutes to get a Mythic group started with the group creator, this number highly depends on when a tank queues up for your group.
The only reason you say it requires an application or base it around your live to make a premade is because you never tried it clearly.
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Your constant use of “us casuals” makes me think that you are just trolling, but at the off chance that you are serious:
Yes, heroics are by now faceroll content, and arguably so are M0 mythics. What I feel you are overlooking is that content that isn’t faceroll greatly benefits from proper team play, players knowing their class and dungeon mechanics at an okayish level, and voice communication. Since most random people don’t want to use voice communication and you know very little about them, you have to compensate for this. “Vetting” (raider IO score, previous experience) and higher item levels are ways of doing this. (RIO score works better than item levels, by far.)
As everyone else has said, you can at any point start your own group. Post it to the tool, accept the first four people who sign up and have fun. Do this three times and you’ll probably be “vetting” people when you do it for the fourth time. Blizzard does provide a fully functional looking-for-group tool (this isn’t “spamming chat channels”) that makes it very trivial to create and join custom groups. Why not use it?
I’m also unclear if you talk about M0 mythics or actual keystone mythics (M+). If M+ dungeons were queueable, I think it would be a fairly unpleasant experience for everyone, and waiting times would be even longer than the dps queues for Azshara LFR. I did the latter once in hopes of the pet and besides waiting for almost five hours in the queue with the healer and dps options checked, it felt as hard as heroic Azshara.
Since you post on a Classic character, how do you plan to do any dungeon in Classic? There is no queueable PvE content at all.
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Agree with OP, this needs a queue system, I do them just fine with the group finder but why complicating simple stuff?
I don’t know exactly how to compare their difficulty but it feels like it’s just a number check, so more hp and more damage difference, between normal, hc and mythic, you can queue for the first 2, so why not the last?
The only thing that changes is the intended audience: normal for levellers and incredibly low geared 120s, heroic for low geared 120s who don’t want to wait for world quest item level to scale or don’t want to do najatar etc., mythic for fairly geared people, it’s just like in wod, which is the first time we had mythic dungeons, back then we also had challenge modes and they weren’t comparable, challenge modes scaled you down to the base item level and mythics didn’t, they quickly became easier than challenge modes.
So mythic 0 is literally heroic for more geared people, therefore more damage and hp, that’s it, no reason to not put a queue system, the top end of the dungeon content is now mythic +, so make mythic 0 access simple, and obviously put a fair requirement to join the queue, they drop 400 item level, let’s say 380+ or something.
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I’m still not seeing a reason why they can’t all be queued for other than to make the hardcore players feel more special by gating the casuals out of “their content”. If it’s really hard and most casuals will fall on their face then so be it. I just want it to be easily accessible to know I have something to work towards.
SOME casuals complained about Cata heroics. Many of us were having a blast because for the first time we had challenging content. This might surprise you but the Cata 5-mans were my best memories of WoW. Also now there are more tiers to keep people engaged, but Blizzard wants to keep us out and thinks we should just be satisfied with the fake faceroll versions.
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mythic 0 should be doable trough a queue. Since heroic dungeons are even easier than normal dungeons nowadays. it would be nice to have a queue for something that is not a joke someday
all the +123456678999199191 versions though would be too hard to select with a normal queue
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Please tell me what the difference is seeing as how everyone in this thread claims you can find a pug in five min through LFG tool. How is It any different finding randoms through LFG or dungeon finder? If it’s ilevel then you can simply add a minimum ilevel req to queue. I want to be able to queue for everything without devoting my life to some hardcore guild.
watch blizzard adding m0 to dungeon finder later on lol
I personally dont like the timed concept of mythic+ anyway so im not the best to comment about it. But with LFG the people who start groups have control over who joins their group. That way you can make sure everyone speaks the same language/is prepared/knows what to do. With dungeonfinder however you just got tossed in with the first random who selected the role he is in. With heroics for example i quite often get italians who are incapable of communicating and even dont seem to have a clue what to do or even how to play their class. People like this would make a higher m+ hard to do
pulling lfr on the same level as dungeonfinder, you would even get people more often trying to leech and get a higher m+ done that way while mostly being afk
I’m all for lower keys getting a queue on their own, but even someone who refuses to do mythics like me can see how it would make higher m+ impossible to do if just some random people get put together
Just admit it, LFG tool is “great” because it gives elitist pricks the power to reject anyone who hasn’t memorized all the fights and isn’t overgeared. This is not a casual-friendly system. Also I have social anxiety and premades make me extremely nervous because they expect you to be a “l33t pro” who knows every fight. That’s why all I’m asking to be able to queue for the content. Using dungeon finder for heroic ZG in Cata was some of my best times in WoW, and that was significantly harder than todays basic mythics. It’s sad that Blizzard is making the game so inaccessible and unfriendly to casuals.
Well first of all they would have to some changes which isn’t really needed just because of pure laziness, like removing the keystone starter for example, but then they would have to make 2 versions of every instance, 1 with and 1 without which is just stupid
If this game is unfriendly towards casuals what are games like runescape then? a hardcore elitist game? Current wow is incredibly casual, and thats one of the things i like about it, i have a friend who has a family & a job and still have time to do some raids & keys with me! 
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As someone who cant bother do M+, looking for members for M+ in the LFG system is very easy.
All u gotta do is create one, then wait for people to show up. One click system.
Its more casual than you can get…
If you cant do that either… Well… Then you cant even play Mobile Games.
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Get good make your own group simple as that you already can overgear random normal at 120 as random heroic as 120 to WHICH ARE LITERALLY BRAINLESS with overgearing compared to any levelign dungeon which require brain and are actually fun /challenging to do .
Do not like it do not do it simple as that.
Anything queueable not premade except pvp and leveling dungeons you can overgear with word quest gear and it become brainless when you do something 50 item level lower than you have.
I am casual i play with casuals can be said most of alliance are only casuals nowdays and i have no issue and my friends either.
Speak for yourself ,the most awful and toxic people are met even i did mythic raiding in legion since for some reason everyone sees mythic raiders toxic af …
Most toxic ans unfriendly players i have ever encountered are from QUEUABLE THINGS literally even from transmgo runs you do not take them and they rage at you for some reason start insult you etc,you say word xyz give advice without any emotion if you do X you will do better Y etc and thy outright RAGE ETC AT you liek if you have stabbed them or what.
I am not fan of queueble stuff more than just for “STORY” i DO LFR and i know what it exist i do it when i feel to lead some guys as tank and for transmog etc i do leveling dungeson when i level with my gf we have fun playing new classes.They actually learn you if you are not dumb and requrie some brain process.
But do i do RHC or random queueable stuff not it is just …
i have somewhat an anxiety problem as well, although it mostly just plays up when under more stressful moments, like when having to do things timed and people trying to rush you alot and likely to judge you when you make a mistake.
This is why i will not do m+ or rated pvp. I used to love dungeon crawling as well but that ended when m+ with it being timed for the keys became a thing.
But for keys up to 11, people really dont seem to be that elitist In my guild i saw alot of people asking for others for their keys. they only judged some people that ragequit over nothing froma guildies key.
And elitist or not with highers keys it will start mattering more wether people actually use flashs/potions/know the tactics and affixes. They dont just open a slider and select the difficulty they are building up their key over the weeks/months. Ofcourse they will be picky when it comes to their key they spent plenty of time/gold on getting so far. People would not be that picky if mythic difficulty was decided just like how you change raid/dungeon diffculty from normal to heroic or mythic
This guy can’t even click to join groups from dungeon finder, it is good to hear that you quit. Lazy peon.
If you suck at this game just go and do normal dungeons and previous expansion dungeons. Are you also upset because Fc Chelsea or whatever club is not signing you up as a Central Midfielder? Because you are not capable of playing football at professional level right…that is why they don’t and we won’t take you to our groups.
I demand 5 k rio from my mythic applicants.
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You can continue doing what have you were doin before this not like these two things removed your ability doing RHC and Random BG.
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