Why character boost to 58 is good

WoW Classic Cataclysm Classic Discussion
1

Since there are so many posts against a character boost (it is only 1 per account).
I think it is time to set the record straight.

First of all it is optional. For all those who claim it ruins leveling exp. It does not for you and you should not care how other’s feel about this.

  1. The boost does nothing you could not easily do by yourself. Leveling is easy it is simply a big waste of time if you do not like it or simply not have. It is something we have done over and over again.

Alot of people have obligations in real life. this allows them to pick up the game. Everything (content) which matters in the end is not obtainable with the boost to 58.

  1. Arguments that say “botters can level easy” is a strawman argument. Yes, they can. (not that it matters anyway, a few days botting has the same result)
    This is simply saying. We punish the good peole for the deeds of criminals.
    A dangerous way of thinking i might add.

  2. Next bogus argument is “no easy alts for professions” again, players can simply level themselves. Buy services, buy boosts for gold.

The only REAL reason anti-boosters have.
Is wanting to interfere with other people who want to enjoy TBC in their own way.
It does not effect you, unless you want to be effected by it.

Even Blizzard agrees with a boost.

The main point is that a boost is for people who are tired of leveling or simply want to jump directly into TBC content.

It gives you a chance to try out that paladin or druid you have never played. You are not forced to waste weeks/months of time to level.

Boost is great for the community. Alot of casual players will play because of this. Making the world alive and filled with players.

It put more money in the hands of Blizzard which they can then use to improve games.

Blizzard i and alot of the community are very happy that you are giving us this boost. We thank you for this.

64 Likes
2

I think the biggest argument for the boost imho would be

When people say “OH IT’ll PUT NOOBS WHO CANT PLAY THEIR CLASS IN THE GAME”

  1. playing TBC Classes aint hard, 2) ALL the infos been out there on TBC for 13 years 3 who doesnt know how to play TBC Classes… this isnt a “New iteration of classes we all must learn”. this is a Revisit to something u’ve already done.

TBCs pull will be mainly on those who did play TBC not new players who never saw it, litterally the boost is irrelevant due to this.

i have seen some perfectly valid concerns to boosts but the people screeching about people using this and not knowing how to play their class as if they’re boosting into a unseen expansion need to remmeber we are in 2021. not 2007.

This isnt New content, the Class Design isnt new. and if there are brand new players who have no idea how to play WoW in the slightest… well their raid mechanic knowledge will be non-existant. which will kill em faster then their lack of class knowledge will ever.

i think however valid Arguments against the boost, likely lay in giving botters a Edge to roll multiple accounts and buy this… and the concept of Retail Services edging towards classic.

this isnt to say “TBC is easymode”… its just stating, how many people who will go into TBC… have no idea what they’re doing in TBC, tbc was a Era where BM Hunters could bind their entire rotations to mouse wheel and Warlocks over time reduced to a Shadow bolt spam.

we know what we are going into with TBC, which means we dont need the “practice time” as much.

8 Likes
3

I think the small minority of people bot (less than 0.1% I think) and an even smaller number will buy a boost rather than just bot to 58.

You will not stop botters by removing the boost. I don’t know why the anti-boost brigade don’t understand this.

7 Likes
4

I admire your courage with the topic :slight_smile:

I don’t personally see any harm in a one off, once per account boost. I know some feel differently. I see it as a pure catch up mechanic you can use once and will have to choose carefully what you use it on. I actually really like that they’ve thought about players wanting to try TBC and play and not be a whole expansion behind.

I will most likely make use of one myself. I doubt after a bit of levelling in Outlands anyone will even be able to tell you are a boost character, however as I’m playing with friends and quite a few of us are thinking of boosting a char to help with the rerolling to Alliance that they’ve decided to go for.

We will just have to see what kind of price tag they put on the boost. I’m not expecting it to be any worse than the Retail cost but am hoping it’s a bit less.

This will not stop me levelling other characters but I probably wont touch anything until prepatch when we get the improved levelling xp.

I agree with you that boosted characters wont have any impact on those who believe they should level every character from scratch. People should play the game they way they want.

12 Likes
5

It provides you with one free “almost” clone of a character, for those that wish to keep playing classic with a character but also want to take it into TBC and don’t want to pay bizzard for the service. Of couse you lose 2 levels, professions and gear but that should come back relatively rapidly in the new zones.

1 Like
6

i think alot off people really want to join TBC instead of plain classic, i know i want to, but dont really want to go through all the classic stuff

6 Likes
7

They still need to level from 58-70 which is more then enough to understand the game.
Noobs will always exist. It is all about how you think and understand the game.

Somebody with very low iq for example can play 1-60 10 times and still suck big time

So i agree it holds no ground.

5 Likes
8

Surely this post is bait

Ok yeah its bait

11 Likes
9

Regarding noobs, you can level all the way through and still have no understanding of your class or how it works. Levelling is no guarantee of that. Usually the finer points of play come into it at max level.

6 Likes
10

It doesn’t matter what is said, people are dead set on their opinion and dismiss other people’s opinions. Boost is terrible for the game imo and it has no place in it. If back in TBC people could level 1-70 why should they have a problem with it now. Specially since the xp requirement is nerfed by 30% from vanilla. Madseason summed the reason for it pretty well, if the boost is available to people who already have a lvl 58 char and not restricted to people who don’t have one, the true motive for it is apparent, it’s a cash-grab to give Bobby more millions

22 Likes
11

quite the opposite, Critzer. You can use the boost to effectively clone a character for free… avoiding having to use the paid service. Blizzard will be losing money on this feature.

12

30% off of eternity is still eternity

2 Likes
13

I don’t think it’s necessarily dismissing, it’s just when people have polar opposite opinions they can’t always see/understand the other person’s point of view. I understand that people often have strong feelings about things even if I don’t share them, but I wont always understand the reasons why even when they list them. This is just one of those things where either side doesn’t really understand the other’s point of view.

14

I understand both sides, I really do, I just don’t agree with those who want it removed.

Edit: After all the vast majority of players don’t care either way. It’s the same small amount of players who post against it in all the threads.

4 Likes
15

For the record, I am not a fan of the boost but I am not belligerently opposed to it either. If you don’t mind, I’d like to provide some of my concerns to your points:

“Alot of people have obligations in real life. this allows them to pick up the game. Everything (content) which matters in the end is not obtainable with the boost to 58.”
What makes you think that people without the time to level to 58 (which will be faster anyway due to the leveling speed increase post 2.3 or so) will have time to invest into rep grinding, attunements and raiding? I’m speaking as a person who plays literally 1h a day at best ( maybe 2-3 on weekends). One of the reasons I don’t do end game content now is that I don’t have the time to consistently dedicate to the game.
Now if people don’t like the leveling process, I can’t say anything about that. I’m sure the boost will be a nice thing for them.

“Arguments that say “botters can level easy” is a strawman argument. Yes, they can. (not that it matters anyway, a few days botting has the same result) This is simply saying. We punish the good peole for the deeds of criminals. A dangerous way of thinking i might add.”
To be honest, I don’t know how much botters could benefit from the boost, I guess it remains to be seen.

“The only REAL reason anti-boosters have.
Is wanting to interfere with other people who want to enjoy TBC in their own way.”
In my opinion, the two most objective reasons for concern are the botting issue (discussed to death already) and the precedent it could set for further paid “conveniences” that nickel and dime players. Other reasons I have (e.g. devaluing the achievement of leveling, devaluing an entire game world, trivializing a lot of the content etc) are purely subjective, and while others agree with me, they are not necessarily objective concerns.

“Boost is great for the community. Alot of casual players will play because of this. Making the world alive and filled with players.”
I have the feeling that the majority of people using this will be competitive players who want crafting alts etc. Speaking as a casual player, I have no interest in using the boost and probably wouldn’t use it even if it was free (though I can’t obviously speak for everyone).

“It put more money in the hands of Blizzard which they can then use to improve games.”
I’m afraid that this money will mostly be used to line Blobby Kotick’s pockets. Yeah, this is just opinion - but given Actiblizz’s track record in recent years, I wouldn’t be surprised if I were correct. That been said, I hope you’re right and that the money will be used to fund good games.

“Blizzard i and alot of the community are very happy that you are giving us this boost. We thank you for this.”
And I’m happy for you guys… I just hope this doesn’t set off a chain of events that will result in the degradation of the Classic series.

Just to be clear, my post is not meant to be an assault on the boost or on your opinion of it. I’m just outlining some of the concerns I have about it, as well as some of my own personal peeves. I think that whether we like it or not, the boost is here to stay, and only time will tell how it will impact TBCC.
Enjoy your day :slight_smile:

11 Likes
16

that is true… i feel like when levellnig Atleast in my case… i generally spam levellnig so quick the burnout effect from levelling gets to me… and my gameplay will degenerate to spamming the same button til the mobs dead.

this will generally mean i dont take notice of half the abilities i learn over time… or even what they do in alot of cases.

generally once im max level, getting there hypes me, so then im back to using all the abilities and learning the rotations… but not before max level have i ever bothered xD

this is why i dont like levelling… because my mindset just Immediately jumps to RUSHRUSH RUSH.

which means i skip anything good about the levellnig period while banging my head off the fastest levelling route possible… its Pure burnout. i did this in vanilla, i did it in every expansion.

its a MMORPG, its built to effectively make u feel like ur missing out on the end game.

2 Likes
17

I’m not hardcore-against boosting but imo it is always the wrong approach and wrong to implement.

You pay money to play a game and pay additional money to skip a major part of that game. This leads to further monetization as you can clearly see in retail wow. In the worst cases this encourages evelopers to not care for the core gameplay since they look for ways to make people WANT to skip it… retail probably again the best example here the world and leveling experience sucks balloons (in my opinion).

I also dont see a point that its something you all have already played. Classic is also an old game you all or the majority has played. How would it be to boost through classic or at least now. Nobody would want it.
Furthermore, like honestly… who doesnt have the time to play a chaacter for a few weeks up to 70, why would that person have the time to enjoy the game to its full extend?

Last point I see as someone who recently came back to classics to enjoy the leveling process once more… just. take. your. time. It’s a game to enjoy, why the haste? In 1 year time everyone will cry again that there is nothing to do (not that leveling for 3 days will change that but its about the attitude).

A pro boosting argument in my opinion are pvp players. Lots of the tbc arena players dislike the whole pve experience. I think that also differs from pve players who want to skip bc they want to skip the content an world they actually are playing in, they just have FOMO and are impatient. Pvp players would just boost one character get the minimum reqs from pve and then play only arena.
Although this is really a minority I see at least here the good aspect (better arena experience).

9 Likes
18

Kinda hypocritical you say this since you two have been very active in posting in all the Classic threads seeking to ruin a game you deemed boring and dull only 2 years ago, I’m gonna tell you guys what you told me moons ago but in reverse, stick to retail

7 Likes
19

You can’t play TBC in retail. The boost will probably not ruin the game, I still haven’t seen any definitive proof of that it will ruin it, it’s just peoples opinions, just like I haven’t seen any proof it won’t, it’s my belief it won’t.

1 Like
20

I honestly do not understand the objections. I have read through them.

I agree that it’s only a minority repeatedly saying the same thing, but this is the way of the forums :slight_smile: The vast majority don’t even visit.

I’m really looking forward to TBC and I hope the beta comes out soon.

3 Likes