Why character boost to 58 is good

[Oniy-zandalar-tribe]

A lot of people have not even done TBC or really taken a deep dive in to TBC. Classic exists to avoid stuff (not very well some can argue) from retail like cash shops etc. Boosts are not necessary and it goes against the grain of what this game is suppose to be. Retail and others games exists to play if you do not like it. Sometimes admitting that you are lazy or could not care less is also good and valid.

[Oniy-zandalar-tribe]

I should add, I am not calling you lazy

[Astrael-ragnaros]

@Oniy-zandalar-tribe

A lot of people have not even done TBC or really taken a deep dive in to TBC.

And alot of peopele in that mentality… likely will never play TBC.

but by sheer popularity… TBC Was Played by a VAST amount more people then SL is currentyly. which means theres MORE TBC veterans then SL players.

@Oniy-zandalar-tribe

Classic exists to avoid stuff

no it exists to get money from nostalgia.

@Oniy-zandalar-tribe

you are lazy or could not care less is also good and valid.

but neither are exactly true. it is possible to enjoy TBC but not classic. we are talking about re-experiencing old content. they dont need to gatekeep such or force vanilla on every player who wants to rexperience TBC.

[Oniy-zandalar-tribe]

I can see you are quite cynical. Obviously they gonna make money even more so now. Bobby loving all the ppl giving him even more money from the boosts. The point is the boost is antithetical to classic and should not be offered. If they want to re experience TBC they can take some time to level. There was a social contract in a ways that we do not want any influences from retail… especially paid services. But nobody will be able convince anyone here. Some would just like the light to be on a little bit longer.

[Kindagood-hydraxian-waterlords]

Oh, i’m wrong. its paid so doesn’t serve that purpose. I do have friends who don’t have high level characters but if I want to play with them I can do early content rather than trying to take them to outland.

[Soupe-mograine]

1. Don’t like don’t do is not an argument when the boost influences the whole environment.

2. While I agree that it is more an argument against bots than an argument against the token itself, the token does make botting much more lucrative.

3. I didn’t get that one.

Go watch madseason’s video, your point of view, arguments and counterarguments are very simplistic and shortsighted.

And your textwall can be summarized in “I don’t want to put in effort, I want rewards now, anti-boosters don’t want that”.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

The character clone is something different but I presume you’ve figured that out now

[Arturus-nethergarde-keep]

Let’s follow that logic, ok?

Why not level 70 then? As you said, it would be optional. You should not care how other’s feel about this. You said it:

@Gangstar-razorgore

The boost does nothing you could not easily do by yourself. Leveling is easy it is simply a big waste of time if you do not like it or simply not have. It is something we have done over and over again.

So if level 58 is fine, why not 70? Remember:

@Gangstar-razorgore

Alot of people have obligations in real life. this allows them to pick up the game. Everything (content) which matters in the end is not obtainable with the boost to 58.

Or do the obligations in real life stop when you ding level 58? Because, you know:

@Gangstar-razorgore

Arguments that say “botters can level easy” is a strawman argument. Yes, they can. (not that it matters anyway, a few days botting has the same result)
This is simply saying. We punish the good peole for the deeds of criminals.
A dangerous way of thinking i might add.

And, of course:

@Gangstar-razorgore

Next bogus argument is “no easy alts for professions” again, players can simply level themselves. Buy services, buy boosts for gold.

Because

@Gangstar-razorgore

The only REAL reason anti-boosters have.
Is wanting to interfere with other people who want to enjoy TBC in their own way.
It does not effect you, unless you want to be effected by it.

And I can end with:

@Gangstar-razorgore

Even Blizzard agrees with a boost.

The main point is that a boost is for people who are tired of leveling or simply want to jump directly into TBC content.

It gives you a chance to try out that paladin or druid you have never played. You are not forced to waste weeks/months of time to level.

Boost is great for the community. Alot of casual players will play because of this. Making the world alive and filled with players.

It put more money in the hands of Blizzard which they can then use to improve games.

Blizzard i and alot of the community are very happy that you are giving us this boost. We thank you for this.

So level 70 boost should be intruced to the game as well according to the logic that supports the level 58 boost, right?

See what I did there? I can do it again:

Why not another service to buy a profession to max level? Because, you said it:

@Gangstar-razorgore

First of all it is optional. For all those who claim it ruins leveling exp. It does not for you and you should not care how other’s feel about this.

Because…

@Gangstar-razorgore

The boost does nothing you could not easily do by yourself. Leveling is easy it is simply a big waste of time if you do not like it or simply not have. It is something we have done over and over again.

etc.

What about lifting the restriction of one char per account? Because:

@Gangstar-razorgore

First of all it is optional. For all those who claim it ruins leveling exp. It does not for you and you should not care how other’s feel about this.

etc.
Why not a service to buy the materials for the professions from the cash shop instead of having to farm them in game? Because, you know:

@Gangstar-razorgore

First of all it is optional. For all those who claim it ruins leveling exp. It does not for you and you should not care how other’s feel about this.

etc.

Why not another service to buy gear from the cash shop? Yes, you guessed it:

@Gangstar-razorgore

First of all it is optional. For all those who claim it ruins leveling exp. It does not for you and you should not care how other’s feel about this.

I can do that all day if you want. Can you get the point though?

[Dottie-thunderhorn (Dottie)]

@Soupe-mograine

Go watch madseason’s video, your point of view, arguments and counterarguments are very simplistic and shortsighted.

Wasting an hour of my life watching something I wouldn’t agree with is not something I would do.

@Soupe-mograine

And your textwall can be summarized in “I don’t want to put in effort, I want rewards now, anti-boosters don’t want that”.

And your points are invalidated by “it’s old content”, what rewards, apart from saving time, and anti boosters are mean.

@Arturus-nethergarde-keep

So level 70 boost should be intruced to the game as well according to the logic that supports the level 58 boost, right?

That’s is the same strawmanning you are saying they have done. Blizzard only ever offers max level boosts in retail after the next expansion is available for pre-purchase, at the end of it’s life, which is what they are doing with the Classic boost.

[Soupe-mograine]

I was answering to the OP , and in your case you already got your answers.

[Sandy-amnennar]

@Dottie-thunderhorn

Wasting an hour of my life watching something I wouldn’t agree with is not something I would do.

Basically the : “My point of view > All”

[Oniy-zandalar-tribe]

@Dottie-thunderhorn

Blizzard only ever offers max level boosts in retail after the next expansion is available for pre-purchase, at the end of it’s life, which is what they are doing with the Classic boost.

Exactly, let retail things stay in retail.

[Dottie-thunderhorn (Dottie)]

I never said that, what I said was I wouldn’t watch it as it won’t change my view, I know the points they have made in the video and they are nothing new.

@Oniy-zandalar-tribe

Exactly, let retail things stay in retail.

They won’t, as Blizzard themselves have said, this is not a faithful recreation of TBC, it’s an improved recreation.

[Arturus-nethergarde-keep]

@Dottie-thunderhorn

That’s is the same strawmanning you are saying they have done. Blizzard only ever offers max level boosts in retail after the next expansion is available for pre-purchase, at the end of it’s life, which is what they are doing with the Classic boost.

Let me quote myself if you don’t mind:

@Arturus-nethergarde-keep

Can you get the point though?

Don’t mine-quote one sentence and act as if you had answered to the point. That is not the actual point of the post.

[Dottie-thunderhorn (Dottie)]

@Arturus-nethergarde-keep

Don’t mine-quote one sentence and act as if you had answered to the point. That is not the actual point of the post.

I quoted the whole passage you wrote in-between the quotes you made, so if it’s not clear that’s not my fault.

[Oniy-zandalar-tribe]

@Dottie-thunderhorn

They won’t, as Blizzard themselves have said, this is not a faithful recreation of TBC, it’s an improved recreation.

Well would have been without the boost.

[Dottie-thunderhorn (Dottie)]

@Oniy-zandalar-tribe

Well would have been without the boost.

You do know all the changes they have made? Even without the boost?

[Oniy-zandalar-tribe]

@Dottie-thunderhorn

You do know all the changes they have made? Even without the boost?

Yup and a lot of them were good and keeping in step with the spirit of the game.

[Dottie-thunderhorn (Dottie)]

@Oniy-zandalar-tribe

Yup and a lot of them were good and keeping in step with the spirit of the game.

So you are the person to define which changes are good and which are bad?

[Arturus-nethergarde-keep]

@Dottie-thunderhorn

I quoted the whole passage you wrote in-between the quotes you made, so if it’s not clear that’s not my fault.

And yet, you did not anwer to the point of the post. You still haven’t, BTW.