Why did wow feel so immersive in the past?

I’m also banned so after this month. Why do you ask?

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Don’t bad mouth my sister, OK?! :rage:

Uhm… it is not a crime to be uninformed about how mythic raiding guilds work. Most people have no idea - why would they? They’ve never been in one.

She told me that the community I spent 5 years building was a revolving-door hellscape. Of course I’d push back.

is it possible to find a community that plays more than just WoW?
like for example people who play both wow and ffxiv
got enough practice with mechanics until enrage for this certain 8 man boss fight etc

only community i joined was for world pvp in bfa assaults with WM on
ofc one leader had to be a jerk and kick me because different opinions
because they drove the alliance off those few shards and there was noone left to fight
infact ive joined random LFG raids who had even numbers to fight
and more fun from both factions than i did with that community lol

Difficulty is subjective. However, at least for me, it is what commands my attention to the extent that I forget the outside world. I cannot play Bloodborne and think about deadlines at work or the Ukrainian war at the same time. Bloodborne grabs my attention so hard that I need to put these things aside for a while.

Not so with The Witcher 1,2,3 however - the games are too easy, I can play them with half my mind occupied. Of course, you CAN have games like Planescape: Torment that grab you on the narrative level, but even that game punishes you hard if you’re not paying attention.

I’ll reword my statement - games that can be played while watching a Twitch stream cannot be immersive.

It’s lilith posting on an alt.

Oh my, have I ever been fooled. What a tragedy.

Because you were probably 15 years old and extremely excited to play a videogame.
Age changes how enthusiastic we are about things

Welcome to the club :partying_face: will be even easier in WotLK!

Well, you’ve mentioned both pallies and hunters felt really dull and different, you’re correct in it.

But since I see you are into pet classes, I can still recommend Warlocks. With high hit chance and many dots, as well as the voidwalker, Affli is quite a good spec to level as. Oh, and you can convert HP to mana, then drain your enemies.

I barely have downtime and can pewpew a lot without a sweat, pretty much only elites can stop me. So it is quite quick as well :slightly_smiling_face: I know you probably aren’t fond of the class, but you’d still try it sooner than Nimrhys (because she isn’t fond of evil classes).

Maybe it will be your jam :wink:

because back in the good ol days the game was “World of warcraft” now a new expansion is just a couple of zones. Its really boring.

Because PVE wasn’t competitive

It still isn’t unless you make it so.

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Fair enough.
I’m just about the exact opposite. When something is too difficult, I lose interest and my fun evaporates. I don’t play games to be challenged. I play them to relax and have fun. I don’t relax when I have to be tense and concentrating to an extreme extent. And honestly; failing annoys me in games. I get mad if it happens unfairly in my eyes or too many times. And I don’t like it if it happens because of another player.

I played those games on the easiest setting. And in 1 and 3 I used a trainer.
The combat in that game is the weakest link for me. I don’t enjoy it. It’s too much work for too little reward; so I cheat. And that way I get to play the parts that I DO like.

Mmmh no I still don’t agree. Change it to: If you play a game while watching a Twitch stream, you cannot be immersed.

WoW can be played while watching something else on another screen, but if I don’t do that, I can still definitely be immersed.

I love games with a focus on narrative; I’ve shifted towards those more and more over the years. I greatly enjoyed games like Telltale Games used to make. But even there the ‘difficult moments’ (the click ‘A’ and then ‘D’ now or die for instance) take me out of the immersion rather than enhance it. Especially failing. You die and have to do it again; that’s a game mechanic and to me that’s not immersive.
Games like Life is Strange are awesome; you basically can’t fail, but your choices have consequences. I love that.

Each to their own I suppose.
WoW is a hard game to make because it has to please so many different types of players. It means many different things to people.

Not really, difficulty can be objectively measured by the amount of steps is required as well as how long each step takes to complete.

For example, a boss with just 1 mechanism that’s defeated quickly is easy, objectively speaking, right?

But a boss with 15 steps, each one taking between 10-30 seconds to complete, would count as harder, right?

As for how intellectually challenging it is, now that’s more subjective, but difficulty itself can be measured objectively.

Only certain aspects of it.

Not everyone has the same hand-eye coordination. Or reaction speed. Or comprehension. Or spatial awareness. Etc.

And then there’s practice. You can get better at something by practicing doing it.
Does that decrease the difficulty? Objectively the difficulty remains the same; but subjectively it’s decreased because your ability increased.

Eh, it’s been easier to do the +20 I did this week than doing keys around 10-12.

As someone that never played classic and just started this week. I really dont know why but i have the same feeling. Everything just feels so much bigger.

sums up most complaints about modern wow

I just don’t enjoy It. I was a Warlock in actual TBC when it was current. The old levelling is just so mind numbingly boring.

Yes TBCC Paladin is boring and Classic Hunter bored me. Both were great Nostalgic trips for about a month.

I will wait for a Wrath boost and quit that too after a month. It just doesn’t hold my interest. Wrath was my favourite expansion but I don’t want to relive it long term. A visit is fine.

Every the I play Classic it reminds me how much Retail has improved and how much I take for granted.

You can love the game. I’m glad it exists. It’s just not the same for me beyond a trip down memory lane.

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Welcome to life, nothing feels the same as when you were younger. You notice you’re focusing on “feelings”, feelings are internal. That’s not to say the game is without criticism but you’re looking for answers that everyone is looking for in life, not just video games.

You can’t experience your first time twice.

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