Why does fire mage for instance have no target cap, but bladestorm only hit 8 ppl
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Why is a banana long and an apple round?
Not everything should be equal, nor can everything be easily compared.
Mages canât cast and move, warriors can do everything while moving around, including Bladestorm. AOE is part of the the Fire Mageâs shtick.
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you can easily compare capped aoe classes to non capped aoe classes in m+ though. Why do you think fire is so meta, Iâd like an actual reason if there is one. The casting vs moving doesnât matter because range is ranged and warrior is not
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Sure but why is it completely uncapped (i say uncapped, it has a âsoft capâ at around 20 mobs on firestrike + patch it leaves behind with deminishing returns on any number over this) and not hard capped to 8 like almost all others?
My view is pretty much the same as when it was announced. You either cap all or dont cap anything.
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Because fire mages are blizz favorites.
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tell that to a fire mage lul
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Except they can. The only spell they canât cast on the move is Fireball, Scorch, Fireblast, Phoenix Flame, Flame Strike and Pyroblast are either castable on move, instant cast by default of instant cast with hot streak (which is usually the only time when you want to cast them anyway).
The only thing that (kinda) restricts Fire Mage movement is Rune of Power, which you place yourself where and when you want and it has decent range where it working.
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Fire is like one of the most mobile casters ATM. They stop only to cast fireball and when they absolutely have to move they either then use their instants or they use shimmer.
The definition of a turret caster is destro and our aoe is balls compared to fire. This is very much a case of âone class has strengths the other does not, and probably weaknesses as well, but itâs not clear what those weaknesses are soâŚstrengths it is.â
I mean thereâs a reason fire is the beloved caster in m+ aside from aoe. They can move and lose less dps than pretty much any other caster.
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So far it seems there is no good reason for this then.
this seems like the only fair/logical thing to do.
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Itâs fair and logical that some classes are better than others in specific scenarios.
specific scenarios? sure. specific content? no
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Not sure what âcontentâ means to you, but fighting 8+ mobs as the same time isnât a type of content.
Yeah but in the same time they donât have to bother with 80% of the mechanics unlike the melees. And yeah they may canât move while casting but they can blink. 
Well in m+ you are constantly fighting 8+ mob and that is a content where mages are dominating. Same in bg where you constantly fighting multiple player where mages are again dominating.
Prior to target capped specs like Aff lock had literally no chance of being competitive. Now they do.
Frost Mage is about as capped as Fire Mage is. Fire is still much stronger in M+.
MM Hunter is capped, yet theyâre very strong.
WW Monk is capped, theyâre strong.
Outlaw is capped, theyâre top tier.
Target cap just condenses the gap between specs like Outlaw and Feral/Aff.
Balance isnât great, but itâs better than BFA. Things would be much worse without target cap.
Btw of all this isnât about mages, all these comments about how âmages have blinkâ and mages âcan cast while movingâ are irrelevant and only serve to derail the topic.
Would you be OK if mages would have their aoe nerf? next probably moonkins and warlock would dominate, would you be ok with their aoe being uncapped because they donât have as good movement or whatever youâre nitpicking now?
Also it gets down to dungeon design, personally i think theyâre ok right now and youâre overreacting with your claim that youâre constantly fighting 8+ mobs. And what you do quite often is specifically designed this way, like the oozes in front of first boss in Plaguefall. Thatâs a situation where classes with uncapped aoe are intended to shine, itâs purposefully made this way.
But in general dungeons favor more aoe oriented classes/specs while raids favor single target or cleave ones.
Yes it would be good. Give everyone bad changes or to no one. Why is it okay for you that some classes getting aoe capped and didnât even get the chance to do good dps while others donât have any cap and can do 3-4 times the amount of dps? Who would you chose for you m+ key, someone who doing 10k avg on a packs or someone who constantly doing 10-20k on every packs? Because thats the aoe cap they are strong on 5 mob packs and even stronger on 5+ where the aoe capped canât do much.
No you wouldnât because this isnât a mage issue.
Because classes are different, some have better aoe, some have better single target, some have better burst, some have better execute, some have better damage while moving, etc
monk WDP is uncapped aoe which makes same insanely strong.
lul kek
you are talking so much nonsense in this thread. maybe you should inform yourself before talking.
Except fire mages have most of those things going for them.
Great ST, great burst, great AOE, great movement, theyâre ranged as well, great utility.
I donât see the minus for fire magesâŚ
If they have uncapped, they should do greater dmg on +8 mobs, but should do lower damage then capped classes/specs on 5-8 mobs.
Currently thatâs not the case as they have imba dmg on 5-8 mobs as well.
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