Well… if you suck at doing dmg or kills then objectives is the last option.
I was one of the first players to hit 2.4k, within 2 weeks of the season start and I didnt do a single objective. I got to 2.4k just by doing pure dmg and sending people to the graveyard. I got to rank 6 which is TOP10 (in the MM spec ladder) just by doing that.
So yes, it is possible to climb high without doing any objectives at all.
If you know. Last night on the bg, you were raging about why a paladin took the flag in a twin peaks, and then you left the bg, it was all very surreal. The worst thing is that it is not the first time you do something like that.
Yes. Possible. If your teammates do the same then you can have all the HKs in the world on a bg if the enemy does the objectives still. But then, a stomp is a stomp.
u do know i had the flag, i literally told him don’t pick it i jump, and then he clicked it anyway
very surreal yes yes, i know u “won anyway” due to prob my prem who stayed in and prob carried it, was aboutt o offer him 100k gold to just leave
its not the first time u get carried through the start and i leave when ppl int and troll ?
believe me, if i could go back, and enter without a duo, and not carry u, and then play as avg as possible till we maybe get GY camped i would, but unfortunately i cannot time travel to prove my point
How do you carry? With your toys? 
I think the answer would be a premade match making system based on % of people queuing as a group.
For example 3 people queuing as 2 and4 solo would match vs similar.
But a full 5-10man would match only with similar unless none available.
It’s not foolproof but would balance out the casual PvP scene vs grave camping.
Even when I’m in a 4/5 premade. It’s nearly a 100% win just due to coordination of objectives.
It’s easy, if there aren’t any premades involved in a game, the team with less hozen wins. Also having more healers helps a lot.
Nice ideas! It would be interesting to test some of these concepts. I wonder if they would ever consider making the random battleground queue factionless. At the very least, this could help spread out premades more evenly, and I’m pretty sure it would also resolve queue time issues—essentially functioning as a kind of “forced Mercenary buff.”
Or better yet, what if it only applied to groups of three or more? For example, if the Alliance has the option to use the Mercenary buff (which they almost always do because their queue times are significantly longer) and a 5-man team decides to queue without the buff, they could simply be placed on the Horde team anyway. This could obviously work both ways 
Interesting. in my conversations with folks they seem to disagree so i think i will go with the majority. Thanks for elaborating on your initial points. Your contribution is hugely appreciated and is taken into my consideration.
You realize it is much easier to say “Oh man, horde sucks and all the good players play alliance.” than to take responsibility and do what is in your power to improve at the game?
You will always find a lot of bad players who prefer convenient excuses.
If you ask competent players they will tell you
“Yeah, I can win with either faction no problem, what do you mean?”
I MEAN yes, but its also undeniable for me that alliance by default wins more…
They’re both the same. Alliance and Horde both have the same advantage. It’s all about RNG.
You heard them. Work on your gear bro. That will make you carry 40 people on any bg 
I play bg casually. When I play alliance we won most of our games. Horde on the otherhand is a struggle. I also think that some of the bgs are simply rigged and favours the alliance more.
I have the exact same issue rofl but trying to explain that to some people in this thread is like trying to talk to a child… All you get is stuff like " obvious skill issue " or else you will get people stating the obvious like gear/builds etc. And then they will want to see your spreadsheet data to prove what you are saying. I cant bro its hilarious XD
Watch em all reply to me saying how its all down to me despite multiple other players agreeing with me lmao. See when you say you win alot on ally they will just say you got caried. Its hilarious because there are people in here who are literally just interested in proving things wrongs ( which is admirable) But the level of contradictory comments made on this forum post and then the very same users basically agree with what i say but in their head it only applys to epic bgs rofl because they get annihilated in there lmao.
Just wait for the gigga response to this from 1 or 2 people in this forum post because they are adamant that its all down to my skill level and im the reason horde lose so much etc etc despite thte fact that ive got decent exp and have previously never had this issue before.
But ye like yourself i can queue on my ally toon and can confirm its back to back wins somtimes i dont even need to do anything becasue the horde team just get wiped so fast. In multiple games vs multiple diff players this was happening last night.
Then queue horde and you can only carry so much but i refuse to believe anyone that tells me i need to carry more. Thats an incredibly uneducated comment to make in a game mode with at least 10 players per team. How can 1 player “carry” in a game mode with 5 different cap nodes when im playing the role of a healer. I can only be at 1 base at a time but yeah i guess its my fault for not carrying my team at the other 2 bases needed to maintain a point lead, yep total skill issue. Thats some really positive thinking am i right?
This whole thing about Hord is losing a certain amount of BGs is pointless, because it is just a personal feeling.
There were so many threads about “Alliance is losing all the time” or “Why is Hord so much stronger than Alliance in epic/normal” and even abt certain BGs towards both sides.
On both sides you win and you lose because of many different reasons, that’s basically it.
If you have a statistic official from blizz or something which confirms that Hord would lose by far more BGs than Alliance does then sure everyone can agree, otherwise it’s nothing more than a personal feeling/experience.
I play everyday BGs and also on Alliance there are many BGs which are just not possible to win, doesnt matter how much you tryhard.
Exactly. Im so glad you brought this up as many people will immediately demand hard numbers.
I agree with what you are saying but i have a feeling people in here will tell you that you just need to carry it more in order to win those games. Its insane.
Yeah I mean I get what you are saying but brother I spent last night on my ally toon and was getting back to back wins (longer queus but totaly worth it) Some of the games I could of gone afk because the horde team was that bad. I was playing for about 3 hours and it was so much more easier to play objectives on the alliance side because horde had absolutely no fight in them. (Many games it felt like an instant win becasue after the horde wipe in the 1st team fight they just fall apart and are incapable of playing objectives it was astounding!
Even had a game where I was one of 3 people on a 15 man alliance team who had full gear the rest were in greens. The horde team for the most part all had 8m hp so nicely geard, and they managed to hold 1 base in AB the entire game ( there were many games like this last night where the horde just seemingly refused to play objectives )
It was hilariously easy on the alliance because majority of games I was in, the horde just simply didnt play properly. Maybe it was a fluke I will play alliance again tonight and see but genuinely shocking how easy it was to play objectives there was 0 real competition. There was 1 or 2 horde players in 1 bg who attempted to contest the objectives but because they had 0 team support it was eeeeeasy to defend.
As for any potential future comments for this response saying that i simply got carried on the alliance side. For me, that is irrelevant at this stage because the games I was in last night the alliance team could of easily won with 2-3 players missing from their team It felt like every bg was comp stomp.
Had some troll whisper me abuse on 7 different accounts after losing a BGB on alt. It was quite hilarious and concerning. Every time I ignored and reported one, he messaged me on another, 7 times lol. But those players are rare, and the people picked are RNG based.
The wow pvp experience in TWW 
your post sums it up perfectly
It was hilarious. Kept bringing up rating and calling me a 1750 rated player. Yet his rating in that Blitz was 1690+. It obviously upset him so much he felt the need to harass me on 7 characters whispering me spam abuse.