Why do I get deserter debuff for being kicked?

The leavers after first/second boss get full penalty.

Well, tell that to my guildies who farm their loot like this, and they never got deserter after first boss ^^

The penalty hasn’t gone in yet. If a player leaves after the first boss is dead, they do not get the debuff and can also queue immediately again (I recall there used to be a delay in the past, but it’s not there).

My bad then, I thought this had already been deployed

Should have because

This is officially too late now. The damage is done and the problem will probably cease to exist or at least occur very rarely.

Mythic 0 is opening up tomorrow. Heroics are irrelevant by tomorrow. Nobody is going to care about heroics by tomorrow. Nobody is going to hardfarm heroics by tomorrow. This “fix” is going to be useless by… you guessed it… tomorrow.

Heroic rewards will upgrade from 571 to 580 :slight_smile: I am going to farm some heroics for sure. Especially the more strait forwards dungeons like Mists and Necrotic wake. I assume for M0 your need to be minimum ~585 ilvl.

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Didn’t know that but my heroics were already upgraded to 580+ anyways, so that doesn’t really matter.

Some might do that, yes but the hardcore crowd that’s constantly leaving after 1 boss to power farm a single item is not going to do heroics by tomorrow, I’m pretty sure about that.

M0 doesn’t utilize the LFD tool afaik? So there shouldn’t be any item level restriction in place. I think you could go straight into M0s with leveling gear.

My point is that this issue, that is created by power farming people, won’t be as prevelant (if existent at all) as it is now due to most people farming Tier 8 delves and M0s by tomorrow.

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I have 9 pieces of 571 :grin:

I don’t know about that. I remember tanks were farming heroic Mists for a trinket or weapon (not sure which) from the first boss while M+ was even available.

We’ll see :slight_smile:

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While M0 or M+ were available? Because I don’t know what kind of person would farm a low level weapon in heroics when he could just farm a higher level variant in M+ as M+ doesn’t have any lockouts.
Seems rather odd to me.

All I know is that heroics will be dead to me by tomorrow and I’m happy about it. :sweat_smile:

So now we got a deserter tag even after few bosses, if the group is toxic and just wants to mess up the dungeon, even if the whole group wype on purpose on bosses… we can’t leave without being tagged deserter.

Working as intended

so playing toxic and jerk around is intended.

No but the debuff is, if people are being toxic then get a guild and dungeon with them, if not just don’t read the chat.

It’s not hard to just go in, do your “job” and leave. You don’t need to interact with anyone. If there’s a group and you don’t meet their expectations that’s their prerogative to kick you if they so desire.

In short, grow up. What you gonna do in a job if someone doesn’t like your efforts? You gonna report them to the boss?, no you just get on with it.

Chat is not what I talk about…

Things like people playing as jerks, like baiting AOE on others players, tanks targetting healers with mobs’ charges, everything to fail the dungeon, even if I do my job some do eveyrthing they can to fail fights.
Just because they know we won’t leave thanks to this “deserter working as intended”.

And telling me to “grow up” is exactly yhe kind of jerks things with this behavior.

Well why would you want to stay in a group like that anyway?

Just leave, point still stands

And then, deserted tag, because of them pushing people to leave and to get deserter tag.

Nah they’re probably just idiots

Yeah just like you, just as intended

Sorry about your skill issues bro

Its been called that since wotlk so take it up with blizzard.