Why do I have to PvE if I want to PvP?

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Hello all,

Can someone explain me why do I have to grind endless Raid / Mythic + / WQ’s / RNG Luck Drops content in order to have some descent PvP experience?

Can someone explain me why there is not a PvP Vendor or any PvP Sets for those that they want to just PvP?

Can someone explain me why WoW is the only MMO without a huge map for real Open World / Mass PvP / Faction experience like all the rest MMO’s? Or why we play the same BG’s for years and years now?

By the end of all this Boring / Meaningless / Useless / RNG PvE fiesta I am already bored to do PvP at all. LOL

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Official excuse is that some people couldn’t find the vendor and others couldn’t find out what to buy from it…

Yea…

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Wait is that serious…
:man_facepalming: Guess I need another beer right now

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Wasn’t the pvp vendor marked on the world map with the horde/alliance symbol since like mop or cata? How could people not see it

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WoW isnt solely a PvP game, but I fully understand you. This can be a bit annoying if you’re not a fan of PvE :c

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Imagine what kind of a no brain player cant use wowhead or google to find PvP vendor so they have to remove it and make whole PvP gear up RNG/PvE based…

OMEGALUL Activision

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The problem was not only finding it , BUT also buying the wrong item. That’s just a risk blizzard will not take.

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What do you mean buying wrong item?How can you buy wrong item?
And if you somehow missclick wrong item , you could always sell it back instant ,get the Honor/Conquest refund and buy the one you wanted.

I dont get your reply

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I felt annoyed when I saw a vendor in Nazjatar for pvp with a mount on it… I hate pvp… but guess I would have to suck it up if I want to get it :confused:

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I just wanted to tell you the reason the devs gave us why there are no vendors.

Can’t find him and many bought wrong items.

And I think they mean it more like in Wod that when you did not start saving 2 weeks before weapons were avaible ,than you couldn’t buy them

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You won’t find people in the PvP community saying it should be a PvP only game. What we want is fairly simple:

  • PvP gear to be once again separate from PvE gear, as it was since the inception of Arenas in TBC up until the end of WoD;
  • better in PvP than any PvE counterpart and worst in PvE than the appropriate PvE counterpart - as to not force players who like PvE into a mandatory PvP progression path and players who like PvP into a mandatory PvE progression path;
  • acquirable from a vendor, as it was since the inception of Arenas in TBC up until the end of WoD, because while in PvE there might be excitement in the RNG of upgrades (different discussion if there isn’t perhaps too much RNG there as well), in PvP the most important thing is the spirit of the competition, and the spirit of the competition cannot be upheld when one competitor is running a marathon while another one is driving past him with a Ferrari because RNGesus favored him; all the competitors must be on as equal outside conditions as possible, leaving only individual and team skill to determine the winners.

It ain’t rocket science, and it’s probably the topic where the members of the PvP community agree in an overwhelming proportion.

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Lady Redoctober,

You are my beloved heroine in this forum.

Once again you saved my time with your well written example.

Meanwhile , Activision’s devs reading your suggestions : ‘‘PvP feedback…LUL’’

Well said anyway :heart:

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it started out as pve game. you chose the wrong game for that focus ;(

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Except that PvP was part of endgame in Vanilla ? That we even had pvp sets which you got through ranking and honor farming ? That open world PvP was A HUGE thing back then ?

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really at release? :stuck_out_tongue:

and you forget you had to go through 1-60 to get actually into pvp. and those 1-60 were quite a stretch :stuck_out_tongue:

wasnt it actually that way that pve gear from the 60 raids was the best to get? but im not sure, never was so much into it

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Sometimes you can’t help but wonder if pvp is in this state because of the amount of backlash there was for stat templates last xpac… but boy wouldn’t I love to have that implemented now.
Logging on to a freshly dinged max lvl charcter and being viable in pvp was great.

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Did they manage to find the residuum vendor yet ?

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Very well said, i wish for simpler systems o come back how they once were, and the people who love pvp to have their thing back again, without forcing ppl who pve to grind pvp which is now the case for ppl who play pvp, without a decent pvp system in place i dont see wow as a full game, loved pve in Legion, now i cant force myself to play it, i wanna do pvp, havent done so since wotlk, and im sad i choose the wrong expansion to come back to pvp :disappointed:

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Sorry that you’re trash at PvP, but please know that there is an entire community that does pvp only, removing pvp would be catastrophic for the game. And I’m happy they implemented rated pvp, I don’t have to do braindead pve fighting the same mechanics over and over again and wondering how people fail easy tacts.

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What you mean you have to ? someone is aiming gun on your head ?I have met pleny pvp players doing nothing else just pvp ??And whole world is pvp if you did not noticed turn war mode on.

As pve player mainly i never understood this “pvp vendor” like why?
I do not go to “pve vendor” to buy my mythic stuff.
I mean f… vendors i would rather be if we could farm azerite from m+ bracket from 4 7 and 10 would be faar superior then F… vendor.

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