its like they are begging healers/tanks to leave the second there is an issue with a group.
the correct way to play is treat everyone as robots and the second you deem them not worthy/key timeable you should honestly just leave and move on to the next robots.
thats how m+ is designed.
considering there is 20 threads a week about leavers needing to be punished, how about we reward people for STAYING instead?
What are you listing your groups as?
Are you actually using the drop down menu, to choose “Completion” and not just sticking to the pre-set “Timed” ?
If the goal is to time the key, I don’t have anything against someone leaving when that is not achievable.
My guess is blizz was concerned that people who just want crests wouldn’t take the key seriously enough end hinder the key holder who wants to push their key, so they wanted to leave some incentive there to time it since loot doesn’t depend on it either.
Imo this is dumb, since people in higher keys definitely aren’t going slow and they do show respect for the keyholder. I’ve occasionally even seen them say “sorry for your key” and such.
Nobody uses that since it comes with the stigma of “we’re bad players”.
Can you blame people then? If they join for the purpose of “timing” as the group intends, and all of a sudden you want it to be a “completion” run?
Some people may not need the crests but do need to time that key for the score
I am taking “Timed” as a fair try to time the key, but obviously things can happen. When a key doesn’t go too far over the timer i am still finishing it. When you wipe multiple times on the same boss it will get a different story.
Completion is a weekly no leaver and can take 90 minutes…
Exactly - and from my experience, the people that do leave keys, does so fairly early.
im just saying that its literally blizzard design and fault if someone is toxic and leaves. could be easily prevented.
But I ask again, what do you do you prevent it from happening?
If the goal of that person is to time the key, what can Blizzard then do to prevent them from leaving, once they realize its not timeable?
give them same crests as if it was timed?
12 for timed, 5 for ever timed.
ah right the good dds would never do such a thing 
you get 12 for intime and 5 for not intime
no reason to leave if its not intime, if you go in for vault/loot and you invested already time…it costs more time to find a new group and start a new run
ppl only leave if they need the shiny (useless) score
But they may not need the crests? They need it timed, so what will they use the crests for?
You do realize, not everyone does keys for crests right?
but thats one of the knobs blizzard have to prevent leavers bro.
i am sadly personally myself leaving quite alot of +8s atm because i cba wasting 30 min for 5 crests. i dont really like doing it but blizzard are forcing my hand almost. #reason for this thread.
Mate… If the group is listed as “Timed” and you can’t time it, why do you expect them to care for crests?
If you have to leave groups “quite alot” then maybe you need to either pick your team better or the problem may be yourself?
better no crests, good decision 
better find new grp instantly and get 12 for same time. ?
Something here doesn’t make sense… If it’s so easy to find a new group and get 12 crests, why are you then complaining about the number of dungeons that doesn’t get completed?
Surely you have no crest problem then if you can “instantly find new group and get 12 crests” ? xD
when do you see that the dungeon is not in time to leave? after 5 min? after 10 min?
then you need a new group, all of the member go to the dungeon and starting it this is probably another 5-10 minutes
literal wasting your own time
you are severely missing the point of the thread.
No, I’m severely missing the logic of it. There is a reward for timing the key, and you get slightly worse for overtiming it… You then proceed to say overtiming it should be equally as rewarding?
Then what happens once people don’t need crests? That you have yet to answer me, because you can’t… People will leave depending on their goals. Throwing more rewards at people will just push the when people leave to a later stage of the game
slightly xD? 12 for time 5 for over?
thats not slightly less. thats almost 3x less.