offcourse I have tagged it my self on a lvl 20 char lol, it can happen, but it is hard at times, not impossible though, all depends on what horde does, and offcoruse alliance does, and yeah as you sort of said, alliance do tend to skip it totaly now also.
Iâve also been in AVs where the Alliance have pushed the Horde out of Snowfall and taken it over themselves.
The GY placement.
If I remember correctly, itâs placed ever so slightly closer to the Horde, because back in vanilla the Alliance had Crusaderâs Aura which meant they moved faster.
And itâs easily defensible, so getting first up there is an advantage.
For sure Snowfall isnât the be all end all.
Itâs a double edged sword.
It enables your attacking force to quickly re-enter combat by spawning at Snowfall.
But if the battle turns sideways, and the other side doesnât take Snowfall back from you. Your defending force will often be split, as those closer to Snowfall will respawn there instead of further in to aid the defense.
But I did a lot of Korrakâs Revenge to get that mount, and I never got to complete the quest to kill Korrak. Because the Horde got him first, every single time.
Getting there first doesnât mean you keep it, doesnât mean you tag Korrak first.
It does not guarantee that most of your team is not running around picking up quests, taming wolves or grabbing supplies from mines.
for an alliance stand point it is horde bias, offcourse had it been other way arround horde would say same thing.
thing is due horde kind of having some stuff that looks better than alliance be it racials, better pvp or pve, many alliance do feel shafted, and it did start in legion whit the allied races where alliance could not understand why specialy nightborne joined horde and alliance got stuck whit lightforged dranei and void elfs, specialy void elfs where like a slap in the face for many who wants high elfs and I can understand it, same was whit the warfront, no info at all, Alliance thought it would be open for both sides first, but that was not the case, and alliance again felt shafted, all theese smal things have made more and more go horde, and more will do so.
No, but getting there first is an advantage if you want Korrak. Because itâs placed on a hilltop with two narrow steep slopes to get up there. Which bottlenecks the ones attacking the place.
In most Korrakâs Revenge I did almost everyone participated in that rush to Snowfall because everyone wanted to complete the quest.
Once the Horde killed Korrak, then all the mount farmers (me included) started farming Rams and Supplies until they left or the match ended.
We are just going to have to agree to differ.
You see it as an advantage, I see it as no different. When Korrak spawns itâs anyoneâs up for grabs. Everyone has a chance at tagging it and there are plenty of cunning Alliance who manage it.
I donât really see what there is to agree or disagree on.
Getting up there first is an advantage. Thatâs not my opinion, itâs a fact.
Of course you can sneak tag him, but that doesnât help if the Horde players focus on killing off the Alliance players before they kill Korrak.
Which is what happened every single time I was there, and anyone in my guild or friends list.
It usually went like this.
- Horde got up there first, capped the Graveyard.
- Hunkered down, Melee in front, Ranged behind, Healers in the rear. Along the edge to the slope the Alliance came up.
- They made sure to tag Korrak first, if that failed they pushed down the slope while a tank kept Korrak up top. Flares were always up to prevent stealthers as well as constant AoE spams along the edge.
- Korrak died, then they abandoned Snowfall and moved north.
Every single time. So there is a slight advantage favoring the Horde players when it comes to killing Korrak.
Though it was certainly a factor that 9 times out of 10 the Horde players I faced was Russian pre-mades (everyone from the same server/guild). Probably on voice-coms. Which would make them more efficient, not to mention coordinated.
Your opinion is that getting their first is an advantage despite the mob not being up.
If the mob was up yes it would be an advantage. He is not up. The Alliance can push the Horde out and even if they canât they can still beat them to the tag.
Getting there first is an advantage, even if the mob isnât up.
Because getting there first means you defend a position that is by the virtue of the terrain, easy to defend.
Getting there first also means you can cap the GY, which means casualties are faster to replenish.
At that point you just wait for the mob and make sure you tag it first.
But itâs not a big problem. Korrakâs Revenge is temporary, not permanent. And itâs more than possible to get the mounts even if you donât do the quest to kill Korrak.
In your opinion itâs an advantage, in my opinion it makes no difference.
Snowfall graveyard is of no significance, with or without it you can tag Korrak and itâs meaningless in the grand scheme of the BG.
Seemingly? I would call it explicitly or obviously.
Not an opinion. Itâs a fact.
It doesnât mean youâre guaranteed to kill Korrak, it just makes it easier.
Tagging Korrak doesnât mean youâre guaranteed to kill him.
Also I didnât say anything about the grand scheme of the BG, I only talked about Korrak.
You can win the entire thing without ever going to say hi to Korrak.
Anywho, getting late. Sleepytime
No itâs your opinion.
But I can see you are just gonna keep saying the same thing.
So for whatever you keep writing, itâs still just your opinion.
Nope.
Getting to a defensible position first, is an advantage if you want to hold the area for a while to kill the dude that spawns in said defensible position.
Because you didnât do the exact same thing?
But as much as I enjoy circular bickering with you Puny, I really gotta go to bed now.
Which is why I ended it. So parrot away it makes no difference and changes nothing.
So salty
Not remotely. Iâm trying to move the conversation on. That is all.
Whatever you say.
Good night though. Sleep well and all that
Iâm glad you can finally let go.