Why Horde are favored so much?

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When Horde boss in AV is killed without pulling his WM, OMFG HOTFIX FAST!!!

When Alliance Boss can, fix in AQ patch.

When Horde can camp in their AV boss room, while cant be attacked without pulling WMs, nothing done.

When Alliance hide in their AV Boss room, you can literally wand them and WMs wont be pulled. No fix.

When Horde get reputation for killing a super weak boss (Ballinda) no matter what, totally ok.

When Alliance have to kill a super hard boss (Galv) and get rep by bug only when if they kill it first, totally ok, fix in AQ patch, no rush.

When Horde win 90% of the BGs because they literally have advantage in every single way, including the idiotically OP shamans that can 1 shot people with minimal gear, criting over 3k single spell and can burst 6k+ in a single GCD totally ok.

Alliance have loladins.

If Horde have useful backdoors to both Alliance and Horde bases, totally ok, fix in AQ.

Alliance have them too but not practical.

If Horde can climb cheat to GY in WSG or go into spots you cant reach in their base, totally ok, even after hotfix havenā€™t fixed it, maybe fix in AQ patch.

If Alliance can climb GY, hotfix.

The list can go on and on and on, not even mentioning the #nochanges racials.

I call BS.

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*Canā€™t pull Vann without pulling the other mobs, check
*Can pull Drek without pulling the other mobs, check
*Both teams can hide in the boss rooms and range can attack them without pulling either boss. Melees have a bit more struggle but still doable, check.
*Rep for Balinda but not Galv? Yes thatā€™s a big unfair issue which shouldā€™ve been fixed long time ago.
*Alliance won every single BG when AV was launched? Or is the vast majority of players just lying? Not hordeā€™s fault that we have a minimum of 25 minute queues to a maximum of 70-80 minutes when alliance have a maximum of 5-10 minute queues (Oh itā€™s more honor/hour to just lose quickly and requeue)?
*Shamans still need raid gear to be able to pull off that amount of damage. Their utility is also limited to a small area.
*Loladin? You mean the best healer in the entire game and the 2nd alliance healer who can dispel magic effects while also healing people to full with flash of light but not losing any mana whatsoever and eventually just pop a 12 second immortality shield? Or if you go the ā€œmemeā€ spec where you can windfury someone down cuz you took a few crits to the head? Yup.
*Both teams have backdoors but alliance donā€™t know about it nor are they using it (or even getting there since they fold at Stoneheart after 3 minutes).
*Climb cheat to GY? You mean the very difficult wall climb that night elf druids use every single time to get into their base? Probably the hardest wall climb that exists in WSG and you say that itā€™s more beneficial for horde than alliance.
*Probably wasnā€™t a difficult climb then. Oh but alliance have another way to climb-jump to hordeā€™s graveyard but letā€™s not mention it.

Any other BS that ā€œprovesā€ that Blizzard favor horde over alliance when itā€™s the exact opposite?

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Bubble-Boys are so much better in PvP than Shamans. Itā€™s not even funnyā€¦ If they woudl stop playing Ret at least ;).

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The Loladins you speak of are the reason that a good Alliance Premade will never, ever lose to a Horde one in WSG/AB. Never.

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It does not sound like you pvp a lot, or at least does not have a lot of knowledge

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Considering that we won the majority of the AVs in the first 1-2 weeksā€¦ without premadesā€¦

People just give up extremely early as alliance vs horde.
Itā€™s why AV is just a boring BG.

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Git gudā€¦

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  1. Galvanger is certainly not harder than Balinda
  2. Horde towers are much easier to cap than bunkers where you need to kill the archers first
  3. Horde base is much easier to cap than alliance due to number of npcs. We do not have a bridge in range of the two towers.
  4. Horde base can be backdoored as well
  5. Shamans are no deciding factor of who wins
  6. Players from Russian servers on alliance side beat horde on AV quiet often.
  7. Last but not least, Alliance have a an horrible/loser attitude on AV. Thats why you lose. Dont blame the design of the map for that.
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TLDR: List of handy excuses for bad PVP players. (Alliance version.)

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From the PTR patch info SO HORDE defend this AV is bais to your side and Blizz even know it you even have Rep gains to your advantageā€¦

Reputation inconsistencies between Alliance and Horde

  • Alliance now always receive Reputation and Honor for defeating Captain Galvangar, regardless of whether Captain Balinda Stonehearth is alive.

  • Developersā€™ notes: This now correctly mirrors the Horde behavior, which grants them Reputation and Honor for defeating Captain Balinda Stonehearth, regardless of Galvangarā€™s status.

  • Alliance Druids can no longer have their actions disrupted by talking to them.

  • Developersā€™ notes: This now correctly mirrors the behavior of the Horde Elementalists, who were already just as steadfast in executing their intended actions.
    Alterac Valley Updates
    This patch includes many bugfixes for issues found in the 1.12 version of World of Warcraft. These were issues that were clearly unintended by the design of the time, and are now fixed:

  • Terrain exploits

    • You can no longer climb the waterfall and enter the Frostwolf base near the Relief Hut.
    • You can no longer climb the cliff and enter Dun Baldar near the Aid Station.
    • You can no longer bypass Icewing Bunker.

Now we may get a more even fight and at least if we lose we can still gain the REP from killing Galv about time toā€¦
Never new of the Climb the waterfall and enter the Frostwolf base,ā€¦But cant see it being so good as the DB Back door.

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From the PTR patch info SO HORDE defend this AV is bais to your side and Blizz even know it you even have Rep gains to your advantageā€¦

Reputation inconsistencies between Alliance and Horde

  • Alliance now always receive Reputation and Honor for defeating Captain Galvangar, regardless of whether Captain Balinda Stonehearth is alive.
  • Developersā€™ notes: This now correctly mirrors the Horde behavior, which grants them Reputation and Honor for defeating Captain Balinda Stonehearth, regardless of Galvangarā€™s status.
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You want see the PTR info admitting AV is better Rep for the HORDE due to being one sided !

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Maybe stop having so many useless retribution paladins then you can see they are more than just ā€˜loladinsā€™.

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Thatā€™s because ppl went for the pure PvE approach and horde still hadnā€™t realized all the glitches they could exploit.

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