Why is DF so light-hearted?

that sounds very brazenly intolerant and very extremist

Just a reminder, Shadowlands offered us Zereth Mortis, one of the most bright zones in the game.

Calm down you will get to leave M+ midrun next week.

1 Like

Do we play the same game?

Ardenweald did really feel like a Disneyland and I’m not saying that’s a bad thing, but I haven’t seen anything more “childish” in Dragonflight than Fairies pulling pranks on other faries and giggling about it.

3 Likes

It’s a breath of fresh air. No more dark, depressing, fel purple and green environments, no more death and decay, no more Sylvanas, Anduin and Jaina. This feels like a genuine new chapter. Just wish we didn’t have Khadgar and Thrall leading the front lines, they too have been overused.

If you say so… You have every right to flag me as does everyone else if you genuinely feel that way. But… do you -genuinely- feel that way? Forgive me, but I have felt like you have been using sarcasm. Might not have been the case, though. Harder to tell through text.

1 Like

I really don’t mind if things are abit Disney for an expansion after SL.
Frankly The Maw looked like an artist’s impression of depression, and that was your introduction to the expansion!

Besides which I’ve done all the quests and have Def killed and maimed my way across the continent. Everywhere you look there are fights going on so it may be a brighter aesthetic but it’s still violent AF.

2 Likes

Yup. And we had to return there weekly in the very least and that would be for quite some time. I never felt good there, honestly. Good job art team on making us feel what we were supposed to feel, but at the same time it doesn’t belong in an enjoyable game if it is there for way too long (like hours doing souls and Torghast, and then Korthia, …).

1 Like

As expected. You got a thread full of people disagreeing with you.
But I think many of them miss the point, it’s not the tone of the expansion that’s wrong, it’s the people in it.

The people we’re meeting are not the kinds of people that would or could exist in a world like Warcraft. After harrowing experiences, war upon war, near-misses where the world nearly got conquered, strife and mutual hatred, we turn around and find everybody is so golly gee about everything. Friends here and happiness there, even in the midst of ongoing wars and turmoil, it’s like they’re on drugs or some sort of enforced happiness.

For those few of us who appreciate some logic - and we are very few now - we’re looking how exactly that’s possible. The people that come home from wars or endured hardships are not the ‘Friendship is magic’ kind nor the ‘Family makes us strong’ kind.

Many of the NPC’s are mellow, insecure, weak-willed, angsty or on some kind of happy drug. Now I’m not saying it needs to be a bunch of depressed veterans with PTSD but these kinds of people cannot function in a leadership role in a world like Warcraft. The sad reality is that too many such people in power, are a good way to get conquered or enslaved because they lack the impetus and will to act firmly.

But the setting contorts around them and makes it somehow work. A soldiers conclave run by a weak-willed, insecure commander? Sure! A dragonflight run by an angsty, aimless softy. Sure. This is not how it works. And people like us notice this and it’s super distracting.

It’s because - and this is where it’s subjective - we appreciated old Warcraft, which has a certain tone. And now it’s hard for us to suspend disbelief about this arsenal of Disney-esque characters we’re bombarded with.

Oh and everybody is gay, even the frogs. Alex Jones was right. :stuck_out_tongue:

SL should never have happened. It was painfully obvious that even devs didn’t like working on it and it showed. On top of that, Blizzard wasn’t really listening to the community nearly as much as they do now.

DF is just way better in every single way from design, systems, storyline, talents,… Blizzard also seems to be listening to the community much more now and are working with it, not against it. There are still some issues that need solving, but if they keep up with this level of commitment, then I don’t think I’ll be unsubbing any time soon.

I’m glad it is. All I’ve seen since my first day of playing modern wow was tentacles and dead people. It got old.

2 Likes

and also the “we’re the good guys and all the others are baddies” god we need some more grey area.

I like it. It’s been a nice change of pace from Shadowlands where we were in the realm of death. The Maw and Torghast still gives me PTSD. I feel more free and alive in Dragonflight, and there’s Tuskarr

1 Like

I’m loving how upbeat it is, reminds me of MoP.

1 Like

I like it. It’s not too light-hearted IMO, just enough to be pleasant and chill. I think we needed this after the gloom and despair of SL.

I like how it feels. Always the same dark depressing worlds was getting incredibly annoying. This is far more pleasing to look at at just feels more chill which is a huge relief to me

That’s my IRL and i don’t want that in game you have Stockholm syndrome if you like that stuff honestly.

It is very important that there is a strong healing and unity theme in this expansion.

The people of Azeroth had been fragmented for too long, making them weaker at dealing with the really great threats.

They also need a break from the chain of certain doom threats.

It is a transition state where the boundaries between Horde and Alliance adventurers are to become less thick.

I genuinely welcome this change of theme for at least one expansion.

1 Like

good points, it does feel like some 12year old anime when in fact we need 16+ anime

Even Seinen anime have their calmer story arcs.
The characters need to remember the good times that make the big fights worth fighting for instead of eventually falling into nihilism and fatalism.

It gave the chance to the Flights to be more than just the remnants of a titan-employed defense force.
Dragons deserve to have some joy in life too

Before DF, the number of living dragons who had some depth in their character could be counted with the fingers of one hand