Hey! I’m no pro at this game but i’ve played Classic a fair bit.
I’m playing Assassin rogue and Combat rogue and my damage have always been somewhat okay. 22k on single target and 30-35k ish on multi target as Combat. However suddenly my damage has dropped incredibly out of nowhere. I used to crit 56k on max combo points with envenom however now it’s 30k if im lucky. All my damage numbers have been lowered extremely and my dps is now 13-16k???
I haven’t done anything differently and i haven’t changed any gear recently either. I’m doing my rotation somewhat perfecly or so my addon says. I should be hit capped at 8% so that’s not the problem. Could any proffesional rogue player give som feedback to what i might be doing so wrong that my damage has dropped by 5k a second over a couple of days?
Where has your dps dropped? Maybe if its 10 man youre lacking buffs or debuffs on the boss such as + spell damage from an unholy dk?
Dungeons, raid, everything pretty much.
I see everyone topping the dps meter just fine but i seem unable to.
Rogue hitcap is way further than 8% man…
What is hitcap then? i googled it and it says 8%
I’m looking at the caps. My hit cap is 8%.
Where do i see the spell cap if that even is something i need.
If you would actually open the link he posted, you´d see that stat prio for CR is Agi (no surprises there) 8% melee hitcap, then 17% spell hitcap, and only after that do the "real "secondary stats come into play Haste, mastery, crit, in that order.
So if you only have the 8% melee hit but are nowhere near the 17% spell cap, your poisons and other non physical effects, which is a lot of what combat does, will miss 10% of the time… And depending on what exactly misses and when , that can be a huge chunk of damage.
That said, you “should” have 3 points spent on precision, meaning you only need 2 % to hit the melee /special cap and 11% to hit spellcap, quite easily doable.
Yes i looked at the link he posted it helped.
Where do i see my Spell hitcap procentage?
SInceß I don´t know what hte CAta UI looks like after all these years, I can only assume that it would show on mouseover…
But if you can´t see it ingame , you can calculate it… 102.45 rating is 1% spell hit, you need 11%, so you need 1127 (actually 1126.95) points of hit rating to ding spellcap.
My spell hit cap is showing 1127 so it seems im defiently capped there. So that shouldn’t be the problem.
However i have 781 expertise rating which looks like it might be a bit low.
Then unfortunately you do in fact probably need somebody that has more than just a rudimentary knowledge of rogue gameplay… I´m just really good with numbers so I figured if it were in fact a Hitcap issue I would likely be able to help, sorry bro 
All good man i appreciate the time you took to help.
Btw shouldn’t i have 1700 hit cap to get 17% spell cap? If 102 hit cap is 1% spell cap
Though the point you brind up with expertise is definitely also worth lookin ginto, especiually if you´re forced into situations where you can’t stand behind the boss…
30 rating = .25% less chance to avoid, you need 6,5% to hit raidbosses (always 3 levels above players) … If my brain works correctly that 780 points, so you would actually be overcapped by 1 point if I´m not making any critical errors…
You get 2% melee and spell hit for every point spent in precision, that´s why you only need 2 + 11% as opposed to 8 and 17
Now, if you don´t have 3 points in precision, then the numbers game gets much more interesting very fast… 
PS /Side note: For teh first time in many years, I´m starting to truly undersatnd again why Hit and expertise were removed…
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I’ve gone in a reforged some stuff. Now i have 17% hit chance and my miss chance on 88 is 9.51%
This looks more right.
However below it is another number which says Hit 1380 (+11,49% hit chance)
Basicly this
Hit chance + 17,49%
Hit 1380 (+11,49% hit chance)
The top number is your total hit chance, or rather “Bonus”, as you don’t need hit rating to 100% hit something on the same level… The bottom number is the rating just from gear (which also tells me that you definitely DO have teh 3 points in Preci so no worries there)).
Perfect.
I now got 17% hit cap and 6.5% Expertise which caps them both!
I’m gonna run Zul’aman now to check if it changed anything.
Thanks a lot for the help man.
Glad to oblige, I “think” it should work but of course the proof is in teh pudding…
So go smash that timerun and get your mount if you haven´t got it yet
edit wait, what? Cata ZA shouldn´t be out for like another 2 content patches… DId they release those early or are you running TBC ZA? TBC ZA might not be the best place to test, because you´re a higher level than teh bosses so hit and exp mean nothing, the Bosses actually need those stats to hit you 
yep it worked! My damage is back again. Thx man!
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Excellent, glad to hear it.
But just for the record, if you can find a way to get tind of those extra .49% hit, for ex by re-gemming if you have sockets, it would also increase our damage a bit more, as any hit over cap is basically wasted ( same concept as stacking critical strike to over 100%)… assuming you don´t have to lose like a full percent but only say 0.75%… 0.25% miss chance or even half a percent on the high end is still just fine, esp if you ´d otherwise be way over, but half a % over isn´t really that egregious, either.