It is also tyra week so even more people that struggle on bosses dodges it.
Sure if you pay method 5 million gold for a boost.
Yeah raiding takes more time commitment and organised groups to get the top gear. Your wanting the same thing from a 30min effort maybe slightly more. Honestly the best solution to this âproblemâ is bullions
some gear from raid is higher base ilvl
I got 2k rio, including multiple runs of the same dungeons for friends, while getting 2 items total, one was a trash low ilvl helmet (that was worse than the set I had from pvp) at start and the second was a dagger I never got an off hand for. How can raiding gearing be worse? I can tell you healing 8+ with honor/conquest gear takes some sanity toll. But if I basically finished the m+ content, aka finished the meta achievement blizzard intended, I would expect some rewards from it⊠So not only raiders get more gear, they also get better gear. Sure, your argument that in theory you can spam m+ all the time, but in reality try to pug for more than few hours in tww dungeons. You will come back to me saying sorry, lol.
Tbh this raises an important question imo:
Should rewards be decided based on a contentâs difficulty or by how much it sucks to find people for it because of the format?
its the whole idea of having to partake in an activity you dont enjoy to be better at what you enjoy.
i personally dont see why its needed in 2024.
It is the best with the guild, your chances will grow each week obtaining the item. I wonder how many raids people run without boosts, will blizzard ever say lol
loot aquisition was fine in DF yes, the loot itself not so much.
there are so many OP raiding items, mainly weapons and trinkets that you are always behind raiders.
yes most people shouldnt care about it but people do care about it and so it should be a topic.
we can also argue that 99.9% of the people dont need mythic gear or even gilded crests but well it is the point of the game to chase your BiS stuff.
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Yea âŠLooking and Liquid and Method players âŠ
Majority of Mythic Guilds 94% are stuck with the 1/8 ~2/8 . (If you count as well the 8/8 hc guild and entering the Mythic content .
Thatâs like âŠ0.3/0.6 item per raider on every run . A yes you need 2/8 to get a slot with Mythic item from the vault so the 54% of the 1/8 Mythic Guilds cannot unlock the vault âŠ
So basically half of the Mythic guild cannot open the 1st slot of getting Mythic item from the Vault.
What about the Gilded ?? You can run now Mythic +8 and cap gilded .
You need 6 bosses on Mythic-Raid to cap gilded âŠThatâs like 170 guilds world-wide that are currently at 6/8.
Then donât do it go on classic wow stand in stormwind wait for world buffs go jerk off and then wait 1 week for next raid.
The whole problem roots from Mythic raids not beein accessable unless you have a guild.
People nowadays cant or dont want to commit to a raiding schedule. Even if they could comit they choose not to because finding a good guild AND getting invited is harder than the bosses in the raid.
Mythic raid is not pugable with this current lockout system⊠its not accessable unless you have 20 people with the same save. So once your saved its over for the week.
I think this is the reason why people cry about Mythic loot is because there is no way that they can get it because of this lockout system.
If Mythic was pugable this wouldnt be an issue.
no the problem roots form that blizzard took players beloved mode aka m+ took a huge stinky s⊠on it and left it like this to please mythic raiding crybabies.
they literaly destroyed the mode players loved to force players into mythic raiding guilds.
what players will do ? players will just unsub once thye are done farming 20 years event.
and yes im bitter because after 4 years of extensive m+ farm where i did between 2000-3000 m+ dungeons i was force to quit it because it become unplayable.
tried it today - twice - both mists +4 - both groups were unable to finish the dungeons and made me waste hour of my life .
both times there is nothing i coudl do
first group on 2nd boss i was standing tanking on mob they should kill - they both times kill wrong one wiping group
2dn group - unable to kill tradnova with 2 dps oding 400k st and druid doing literaly 190k being below me as tank and healer unable to heal up group .
if blizzard dont do anything then m+ will be unsavagable.
pugs are even worse then they were back on week 1 and 2 .
its just unfantomable that blizzard is doing nothing just because mythci raiders with mythci raid gear are facerolling 10s while everyone below is suffering.
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Two items drop that are suitable personal loot for five people. Itâs simply far more effective than raiding.
Raiding is outdated terrible design
I donât like it but i mostly do it when there is some good item from last boss like RING for example right now.
If there was a way to get the best gear out of m+ game would be 100% better for me
but i guess people still love to be locked to certain time 
i donât like that either cause i just like to chill and only progress if i feel like it and that for raiding doesnât work at all
Because the weekly casino rng hell is so much better right?
You do 8 m10s and then you are practically done for the week. Hell, you are not even guaranteed to get a single useful item out of the vault, so in a way we are already back to the âTF hellâ except this one is timegated as well.
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