Why is the majority of the community avoiding PvP?

It’s nice that they are trying to improve PvP, but their strategy of making small changes isn’t working. Blizz need to completely scrap WoW’s PvP design and start from a clean slate if they want to make it good. And they should let the HotS or Overeatch designers take lead. Some design changes that I think are necessary:

  • No gear power; 100% player skill.
    • Rewards are transmogs, titles, and mounts only.
  • 1 PvP class specialization only.
    • Trying to support and balance 2-4 specs per class in PvP is a lost cause.
    • Blizz should create a new PvP-only spec for every class that is specifically designed for PvP. The existing PvE specs would no longer work in PvP.
  • Healers and tanks are more like normal DPS classes.
    • Similar to Support heroes in Overwatch.

Done already

Cant happen,they are gonna cut way too many abilities which people love to play with

There are barely any tanks in PvP,Healers are must in PvP otherwise you will break whole gameplay of the game
Also,you dont wanna get people of 2 huge flops Hots and OW (and i like HotS but i admit it was a huge flop)

‘100% player skill’ is a myth and will never be present in WoW simply because the designs of the specs and abilities can function as a compensator for lack of skill. I mean, Ret paladin has a talent where they dispel with every judgement, and that’s every few seconds. That isn’t skill, they’re pressing 1 button which completely counters people reliant on dots for example.

For 100% player skill to be present in WoW PvP, everybody needs to be playing the exact same class and have 2 buttons and 2 buttons only. There’s too many talents, modifiers etc for 100% player skill to exist.

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because it’s not fun.

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Support characters are basically cannon fodder for DPS in OW, lmao.

Because:

  1. I die in a stun
  2. Stun lasts too long
  3. Too much CC in general
  4. Die too fast because the gear/dps imbalance is crazy

??? How do they last too long? They don’t.

yes they do.

Paladins have 5 sec stun. Rogue have 5-6 seconds!!! Its crazy. It should not last more than 3 seconds

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There shouldn’t be any stuns imo.

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Wrong.You problem or team problem.

Wrong.Every stun lasts exactly as it should,in 10.1 even less

Wrong.You problem again,cant manage interrupts/positioning

Wrong.There is no imbalance in DF PvP gearing.Best Gearing expansion so far

Overall you problem,l2p problem
Also in DF we got devs that hotfix/tune every week.Best they have being since ever.

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But 5 sec. & 6 sec. stun it’s not that bad.

There should be. The problem is when you are cc’ed in a row by an organized team and in the end, you found yourself dying without even playing but this happens approx after a 1.4 - 1.6k rating. It happens to all of us.

Not everyone is perfect, and neither they should. People even not attempting to unlock cosmetics make me wonder what can be that bad on PvP.

Agree.


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I just thing wow’s strength is PvE so dungeons and raids.

Doesn’t make it fun. Or okay.

This is a game. So it should be fun.

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Literally the exact same thing as PvE but okay.

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People who say that PvP is a side activity of WoW, they hadn’t ever do PvP really or are new players who started playing on legion and BFA, or they are just 15 year old. Period.

PvP takes real skill to play, whereas in PvE you just learn mechanics of a dungeon and a Raid and that’s it. Now the dmg that you take as the level scales up, it has to do with your reflexes in predetermined mechanics

GG WP PvE folks! L2p!

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That take there is the pvpers special move and is so very wrong it is laughable.
People who say this is the exact people who do not have any idea how to play the game.

If you want to get more people to play pvp you are absolutely messing up the whole idea.
PvP only players are the most whiney crybabys in the game and that is a fact.
luckily you have the PVP forum otherwise this forum would be filled with posts from people like yourself.

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COUGHVanillaCOUGH

I love PvP, just not WoW PvP.

The same old BGs just get boring after all this time. If you turn warmode on you either get to many enemies or none at all.

oh yeah I nearly forgot about the CC overkill which they think is great fun, but it’s not.