Why is /yell *Gunshot!* hated?

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Silvermoon: Become Human

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This times a thousand. More and more self inserts make their way into the game, it’s ridiculous…

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/yell agitated gattling gun noises

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People have a big ego and a proper hard time accepting defeat in RP/hold in power and simply god-emote their way in to save the day.
So when you do a very large invitation of RP with /yell Gunshot it’s bound to become a :poop: show.
Thus it’s viewed as bad-RP as it turns to OOC bickering in /e 99% of the time.

The 1% that ends in fun RP for all involved gets overshadowed and forgotten. since the server lives on drama.

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/Y insert Noice meme

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truly people should just /yell “redpill me your location” back at the /y gunshot to create that gud rp

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I think it’s because of a few reasons.

For one, a gunshot is really invasive in rp. Stormwind is much smaller than it would be in lore, so you doing ‘GUNSHOT’ in Old Town resonates across the entire city, almost. There’s no context, no location and no sign of it being anything more than attention seeking. Moreover, it demands NPC guard acion, which of course is never forthcoming.

Also, shooting someone is extreme. It’s the kind of rp in which many people would only engage with if RPing with a friend. Shooting at some random strangers’ character is a sign of cringy RP, as it would take a very strange context for that level of murderous, maiming violence to be appropriate in casual rp. Indeed, if you were going to do attempted murder or severe violence RP with a trusted rp friend or guild, you’d probably do it outside of the city to maximise privacy.

After all, what GOOD rp scene needs half of Stormwind alerted, with every OOCer or RPer of varying quality storming in? It’s just not a good sign when considering the RP capacity of the person doing it.

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Then you confiscate their misused firearm and put them in the stocks. Or, if Horde, feed them to the worgs or whatever it is that Orgrimmar does with its hoodlums.

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It seems like the WoWification of crying “Wolf!”

It is rarely acknowledged (why this is, could be a question by itself), so is just annoying and people simply carry on with their day.

I also ascribe to the idea of it being attention seeking.

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As people have mentioned, it happens frequently, doesn’t really convey any workable information and is fairly difficult to respond or react to. Given the stigma around it, most others prefer to just ignore it.

I personally think a better way to handle it would be to post an emote in /general instead of yelling. I’d imagine more people would respond to ‘The blaring crack of a gunshot echoes within the streets of the Old Town’ as opposed to the usual GUNSHOT. It runs the risk of attracting OOCers, though.

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I can’t be the only one running around with those OOC channels muted. Wait, am i?

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someon does the /yell gunshot
hears a vague blast in the distance and sniffs
Flintlocke, blackpowder… behind the bank in the valley of honor.

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I really wish people wouldn’t use this as Carte blanche justification for every overly intrusive, flimsily justifiable, agenda setting or plainly lore-breaking excuse for RP.

Just because something “makes rp” does’t give it immediate validation, as I’ve always said - RP is a two-way street. You cannot enforce something onto someone and demand it to be recognised. The next most common line “But it’s fun!” is also not a valid excuse, what is fun for one person is not necessarily fun for the rest of people.

After all in the words of a great person of our server “RP isn’t always fun.” :fishing_pole_and_fish:

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Well, it’s really up to you if you believe /y GUNSHOT forces you to RP. You can just shrug it off and say “Sumthin’s goin’ on in Old Town again.”

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I think even existence of this can be intrusive, because realistically, Stormwind is far bigger in lore than in game (as others already mentioned).
Just few days ago, I had the luxury of having real gun fired 4 meters away from me during one of our lectures (it was about working under stress, quite fun, actually). Loud AF, my ear hurt for like half an hour afterwards. I also happened to have another lecture in the same building few weeks ago while another group had the “gunshot lecture” and we were warned that they will be shooting from a gun.
I did not hear a thing despite being on the same floor of the same building.

You can´t hear gunshot from Old Town when you are in Cathedral Square, but if someone does it, it´s possible that people you are RPing with decide to respond to it…which means it kinda forces you to accept it happened.
And that´s not even getting to the issue of people RPing shooting others in capital of the Alliance, more specifically in area that (despite being home of poorer and shadier individuals of the city) is right next to Command Center.

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I think alerting people to something loud via /y fine, but as with all emotes it should be informative, else it stiffles and interrupts RP rather than create it.
For instance, it would be a good idea to indicate a boundary for the sound, so that RPers in Cathedral Dist. know not to respond to a sound in Old Town.
It doesn’t have to be a gunshot. It can be a scream, a town crier yelling, an explosion, the shriek of a wounded hippogryph, etc.
If you emote with care and with a clearly stated target area, people within that area can interact or ignore.
Just because people make a ruckus doesn’t mean they want attention and drama. I make a big ruckus in RP often and I absolutely hate attention and even the teensiest bit of drama makes me tense up.

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Ambient RP
/y tumbleweed noise
/y goblin scream
/y splash

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/y footsteps

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The problem is with gunshot is as mentioned above, it doesn’t give enough information as to what’s happening where and there’s not enough variation in how a ruckus in Stormwind is represented.

I’d also go as far as to say gunshot is annoying BECAUSE people do so much of that sort of RP in Stormwind. It’s meant to be the capital of the Alliance, a noble city which most of the time right now is under heavy guard due to recent infiltrations and jailbreaks. However in RP you hear of at least one random bombing or murder every night and I’ve heard multiple gunshots in one night in the past. That, on top of the habit of RPers to have shouted conversations (usually full of vulgarity), completely ruins the immersion of Stormwind being a bastion of Alliance order on Azeroth.

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It gives it immediate validation for the people involved if the people involved are enjoying it

Nobody can force you to accept something happening but in turn you can’t expect other people to take the same stance - some people may be eager to engage in RP that you don’t find fun even (or especially) if the Big Brain :atm: hegemony is involved and that’s fine

If it’s fun for the people participating & doesn’t break server rules, it basically is the best & only excuse

In the words of Owl City in his song ‘Good Time’ “It’s always a good time”

Agree 100% - the guilds I run tend to be on the guard side of the divide and I think that over-reliance on NPC authority is pretty boring. There is no exciting story to be told in /e actually the guards kill you

Also there is absolutely no way to decide who the NPCs will support - for example who is to say [NPC Grunt] isn’t crooked and paid off by the [criminals]. Playing Total War: NPC Guard Force is crypto-power emoting because it ends up being people claiming that random NPCs are their character’s emote fight backup

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