Why it is rude to be bad at the game

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There was this Video on youtube with the same title. I didn’t like it. To much stats to much of students trying to sound smart ^^

Also i think this thread is a little wasted, since i think most of the poeple using the forums are Veterans. But ill try my best without beeing condescending or rude, since we all pay for the game and noone should have the right to force you to do something you don’t like, when you payed for it.

Sooo here i go:

When you play allone, noone cares what you do. You can kill a Mob just with your pet, not pressing any buttons. You can go afk when ever you like, walking your dog or having that argument with your partner. You can just stand there screaming at your screen how bad all the peoples transmogs are.

Noone cares - it is all fine.

But there will be times when you join a Group.
Now what many people seem to forget, playing in a group is much like driving in a car filled with strangers. If all respect the other passangers boundrys , you propably will all have a pleasant trip to your destination.

But how would the trip be, when half the passangers didnt take a shower for 1-2 weeks. The other half would sing random songs, beeing bad singers. A Couple of the passangers started a fist fight. All while you are driving the Bus, trying to not kill everyone in a accident. And then one Person insist on leaving the Bus to get fresh air, not returning for 20 minutes.

Well some people might think this trip is less pleasent, while some might enjoy that ride even more ^^

So how does my writing correlate to WoW?

Tank:

  • Never uses any of his defensive CDs, or even energy spenders, while pulling half of the dungeon, then blaming the healer for not healing enough. Wich triggers the healer. They start an argument resulting in bouth leaving the group. The DDs staring at each other, asking themself “what did just happen”.
  • Starting a group geting an instant invite and then going afk for 5+ min.

Healer:

  • Standing there picking their Nose with full mana, because there is nothing to heal, instead of doing some DPS, or even worse not even having any DMG spells in their Skillbars.

DDs:

  • Standing in the fire on the ground untill the Healer is out of mana (its not a smart healer, but a dedicated one ^^) and then everyone dies.

This for me are the basic things a player should try not to do, if he cares even a tiny little bit that he is sharing hes playtime with other players.

Sure the higher the skill requirement gets (Mythic raiding, very high M+ Keys) the less players will accept slacking off. But i wish some new players read this thread, have a good laugh and try not to be that Tank/Healer/DD i just described.

<3

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Depends on the level of content, if you are trying to do a +15 and don’t know how to tank I might care, but if it’s a +2 nobody cares. A Dps could tank it.

If it’s LFR you expect people to be novice or on a spec they don’t really know. If it’s Mythic raiding I expect the tank to know what they are doing.

I don’t expect expert level play in a Heroic or Normal dungeon. Everyone has to learn and often that is where you are going to get the chance to learn.

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I don’t think its rude to be bad.

I think its rude to be bad (or have no self awareness) and then put yourself in the running for stuff that you aren’t competent to do.

I don’t want my +15 to fail because you didn’t know mechanics / your class / you control your character by licking your monitor.

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Oh my god…I missread “mother” in that last part :rofl:

Anyway, I think for some people it would be good if there was locks in place… “no mythic raiding til you did heroic”, “no 20+ keys unless you did 15”. Just to protect them from themselves :sweat_smile:

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Thanks for that Deja, now I can never play a game again without seeing someone holding their monitor with both hands and slobbering all over it…

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HOLD UP HERE

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aye i agree… my WL mog sucks ^^

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You could probably partially damage the boosting scene with this which would be awesome.

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I’ve had more than enough trouble in upper kara to the point I’ve just avoided it completely. People just keep moving with flame wreathe. At all key levels I’ve attempted.

I don’t get it. How hard can it be to not move when flame wreathe is up?

This has been the case in +2s and it’s happened in +23 and it’s happened in +20 and it happens in +15.

Doesn’t matter the key level, medivh is the ultimate pug killer and will cause group disbands because someone just can’t help themselves and have to move.

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It’s not rude to be bad at the game but it is inconsiderate to join a group you’re not suited for. We all have/had to learn in this game and nowadays there is allot more in terms of guides available to learn your spec and content you want to do.

I don’t expect anyone to be an expert but i do expect people to put in some effort.

What is incredibly rude is joining a group and expecting to be summoned instead of getting your butt over to the instance, especially when the group is still forming.

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Yeah but they’d rather wait an hour for someone else to do it :joy_cat:

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Except when i’m tanking.
pug tanks always seems to get an summon :grinning:

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your comparisons creditability lacks one thing.

your arguing someone Intentionally doing something which will cause a Unpleasent issue, I.E Singing, something u do intentionally, not showering is a intentional thing.

being bad at a video game isnt intentional, no ones logged in and said “I Want to be Bad at this game”. it is something thats caused by either RL Circumstance (Missing limbs, Partial Blindness, Colour blind Aging etc etc) or simply because they Dont understand or lack the time to improve at the game to the degree of the games verticle scaling of difficulity.

WoW has, every expansion dropped raids and dungeons harder then the last, which means those who are trying to get better at times Never actually equalise wit hthe curve with the games difficulty.

Yeah its not how they want to be, they dont intentionally suicide, In the heat of battle, some People simply break under certain levels of Reactive skill requirements. No ones run into the fire, the issue is their stressed by learning the class which introduces silly mistakes due to frustration.

we as a Community are faster to say “ur bad” and quittign ur group, then remotely attempting to Tell them where they’ve gone wrong, Sure thats built from a jaded view of how many scream back “well u dont pay my sub i play how i want”. but that isnt a Rule for every bad performing player.

I’ve on many accounts Whispered someone politely Tellnig them how to handle the mechanic and rarely had backlash from doing so, People get defensive when u announce them infront of Everyone call em out and Shame them continously, and theres a massive difference between the 2 approachs to a Situation.

ever considered the Dude in the back of ur Bus theory. who continously tells the driver their a bad driver all the way therefore, maybe also rude?

this is the more accurate statement.

People who buy boosts trhrough content obtain a high RIO from it then start applying to groups without a idea how to do things, or people who drag their 260 ilevel friends through +18s through the pug system with their RIO and not their partners RIO Displayed.

are generally the ones to be considered inconsiderate, but at the same time u have full rights to quit the group also.

i have seen the way “Newer” Tanks and Healers who take up the challange of doing those Roles is treated in a pug.

i most defintly would rather wait for someone else Lol, theres no way i could go through a Run, with it, i react badly to getting flamed

(not in sense of reaction, I simply Stress myself heavily to the points i simply cannot Function and start Dropping massively in performance from it i have Severe stress Anxiety)

it wouldnt go well, i wouldnt be able to tank under the conditions some of these players have to deal with. maybe among friends i’d take these roles up, but i’d never do either for a pug.

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I am veteran since vanilla and I always help out if players are new or something like that instead of kick else new players will never learn. One thing kick system missunderstood from Blizzards side and still not fixed yet. I dont get it!

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If we’re doing a +26 iron docks, why do you need to be handheld on how to do the iron stars? Why should I not quit if you fire it right into the wall or miss just about every mob?

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Well yes at a extreme.

But you failed to read the second part, if ur in a +26 and cant do the dungeon the likelyhood is ur RIO is boosted.

Which falls under the inconsiderate mentions i made. Yes theres a limit to this if ur running 2.8k rio and join a +26 serious questions need to be asked if ur at that point unable to mechanically perform.

As i said, u most defintly should leave a run like that.

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Ok, more realistic:

You’re running upper karazhan +15.

Flame wreathe comes up and you wipe instantly.

You go again.

Wipe to flame wreathe again.

Why should I stay in that group? Why should I waste time on them? I can join another +15 and be done before that key would’ve been finished.

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You should leave.

Im not saying we should normalise people who dont do mechanics, your invited based on a RIO score. And unless ur boosted by a +15 u would know how to do flame wraith.

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:rofl:

Bruh, I’ve failed +23s to flame wreathe. The +21 failed on this was because of a dps that decided to use a movement ability when flame wreathe was about to go up and we wiped when he was almost dead.

Every group I’ve been with in there wipe at least once on medivh, to flame wreathe. If it’s 2 wipes, I’m out.