I love their looks and I can even look past the whole recruiting scenario but their racials have to be actually worst in the game. You have random secondary buff which is neglegible, bonus mount speed which doesnt stack with others effects, pet HP which doesn’t matter and only like 2 classes benefit from it. Lastly 10% time reduction on bleeds, poisons and diesease.
Compare it to Zandalar who can choose which secondary stat they want to boost or to Dark Iron who just dispell those effects, get bonus for each to stats AND get big and flamy.
Mag’Har feel boring, they just get blue particle effects and passives that do nothing.
I know that there is this discussion of Alliance vs Horde racials but I am talking in the vacuum. They are just uninspiring compared to other races.
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Normal orcs and some Horde races already have the best racials, that is why.
Besides, Mag’har orc and Nightborne are requested allied races, they already had fans, if they had better racials it would be the end of Alliance, this is why Blizzard decided to give them useless ones so that Alliance won’t die right away but slowly.
cuz Horde mbad, Alliance. ZMUG ZMUG GUUUUD
YEEEEEEEEHARRRWWW
This argument again, after I specified I am refering to races in a vacuum. Just because race X has good racials doesn’t mean that race Y should be bad. And its not just about being good or bad but just fun or interesting. Also, if they were requested it would make sense for devs to make them interesting since people care. Nightborne has cool racials. So, both arguments are illogical.
I don’t know how it was with Nightborne but I am 100% certain that community never asked for “actual Maghar” but simply for brown skinned orcs (and other clans).
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I’m just telling you the reason behind useless or subpar racials, believe it or not.
Have they ever talked about it?
because you cant have looks and op racials…oops belf/zandalari disagree
I personally don’t expect them to say something like “Hey, we’ve given Horde what they asked for one by one but we are not giving them good racials in exchange, since we’ve given Alliance a bunch of trash races we need to balance this out like this.”
They came up with Zandalari only by means of usefullness, Zandalari Paladin is the best choice with a wide variety of racial choices and looks good, the rest is for roleplayers and casuals (Mag’har, Nightborne, Vulpera).
Aigo & Retributor on the same thread, now 'tis a good time to sit and watch the show.
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The contenders for the worst racials in the game number-wise goes to Draenei and Nightborne, actually.
Nightborne because their AoE slow isn’t anything stellar, and their only game altering racial doesn’t even work for non-magical damage, so that pushed them into the niche of playing a caster of some sort (unless they go for the looks, but then the racials do not matter at that point.) Otherwise they only get a free mailbox.
Draenei atleast have Gift of the Naaru going for them, but in exchange Heroic presence isn’t really that good.
Mag’har racial is middle of the pack, and pet classes benefit more from the race than others. In exchange for this they got more customisation than other allied races (more than even some base races did) and on top of that got multiple heritage armor tints AND access to the priest class, which is locked away for their base race.
For the record normal orcs get extra pet damage racial, which only applies to two classes as well, so that racial is actually in line with their whole race fantasy.
I think the Mag’har already got plenty.
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Yeah, lets nerf them.
Give their racial to the foxes!
They are being punished for being RAYCIST!!
They literally called me disgusting greenskin when i was SAVING THEM…
They should pick what clan they are. “We are Maghar” is stupid. They even have clan-related jokes. Mounted speed racial is useless because this thing is not stacking with any other bonus like death knight passive for example 
Overall we should have more racials for all races and options to choose. I wold get rid of my enchanting bonus
Well that’s subjective.
My Mag’Har is a BM hunter (because, of course he is) and I love that pet racial. 
HP? Green Orc have DMG bunus to pet.
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You can’t really reference them in a vacuum though… As the other races will always be there in the game. So there will never be a situation where the other races and their racials won’t exist.
Sure they might not be the best racials in the game, but they aren’t the only race with lackluster or situational racials.
Because racials are irrelevant and cool people who play Mag’har know this and simply don’t care.
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Keep your ancestors, thanks. I am completely fine with my versatile vial.
Racials are super important, they are defining in RPG genre, always have been and saying otherwise is just coping mechanism. Blood Elf in M+ is amazing, you can have situation where you just ignore mechanics and go all in and then just dispell mobs, saving dps. Highmountain have awesome charge, Tauren have stomp, Humans can remove stuns, Night Elf can do skips, Vulpera have bagspace and can set up HS anywhere.
Like, these are all cool unique things. I wouldn’t really complain if you could choose your ancestor but as of it is, looks like they have put as many resources into racials as they did into whole introduction scenario. Which is not much. It’s just a fire and forget button with a chance on bonus disappointment.
They’re a nice bonus but not super important and a racial being good or bad doesn’t and shouldn’t influence my choice in picking the race I want to play in the slightest. Because it is a RPG, not a number simulation game.
Thus I find them irrelevant, and they’re not that bad anyway.
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people who pick a race solely based on racials really need another hobby
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