Tbh, this was a problem even before LFR… if you were in a small guild as I was in TBC and WoTLK, you often teemed with another small guild and then pugged extras by spamming trade chat…not surprisingly, pugged players were a very mixed bag
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Thank you.
Actually my situation is more complex.
It started with me hating the story to the point I couldn’t identify which character, I wanted to play.
The furthest I got was on my BE paladin from another account I am not playing anymore. She had unlocked Nazjstar campaign by that time, when was current.
On this account I have ten level 120 characters that haven’t even finished the Zandalari campaign yet.
All I’ve been doing for the moment is the highest wings of LFR that rewards 430 ILV gear and TW for the 445 ILV rewards.
I don’t know what to do atm except enjoy myself with group content.
Should I buy the expansion ?
If not I have plenty of time to finish BFA.
If yes it’s not worth spending time gearing up, because SL will reward better gear.
Cheers.
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There is plenty of time make a decision on Shadowlands… I’m definitely going to get it… probably a week or two after it launches, since there are always bugs to be ironed out.
I’m enjoying Nya’lotha… although this is my Horde Alt and my Main has a lot more progress, just N’Zoth still to do… then I’m probably going to start chasing Mounts again, which is a favourite pastime… didn’t pick up the Fox mount in Legion… and there is some RNG involved, so that is my project after N’Zoth.
I’m a bit lazy on gear, so as long as it’s reasonably ok for general PVE world content, I’m good… obviously for some other content, gear becomes a lot more important.
Have done the Cloak quest on my Main and three Alts including this one… it is a bit of a pain.
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Just realised your HoA is quite a long way off what you require for Nya’lotha… If you like the toon, then leveling it up, to activate your Azerite armour will really help your DPS… and there are some easy to get DPS Essences… if you do the Azerite 4 WQ Caches, the catch up mechanism, now powers through the HoA levels in no time.
You have gone for a Crit/Haste build which is good for Beast Mastery so that doesn’t need changing
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Thank you.
This is my main problem as I am playing 10 characters at the same time.
I enjoy gearing them at the same time and as you stated:
I will have to think about it.
Cheers.
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Tbh, with the amount of stuff player’s characters have to do in BFA, at this point in the Expac I would probably pick a couple of toons you like playing most of all and focus on those…of the four toons I am playing regularly, one Alliance Main and one Horde almost-Main (could change around in the next Expac, I like the Floof) are getting most of the attention… but I’m trying to get the Wrathion ‘Wings’ trinket on all four.
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You can totally bypass LFR gear in the game, the rewards are just too low. If we are gearing an alt for a raid we take them to M plus or a heroic run.
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If you are in an active guild and play when they are online, this would definitely be an effective strategy
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Friends, it requires friends.
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It’s an older concept, but it checks out.
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As a super casual player myself I honestly wouldn’t mind LFR being gone as long as they stopped adding story in the raids.
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Storyline in LFR, I don’t have a problem with.
However, sticking storyline in Mythic0…or PVE stuff requiring PVP content…yep, that grinds my gears every time Blizz.
I know you are just trying to encourage me to try other areas of the game, still grinds my gears…just saying.
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lfr need be remove from game just do normaal if u can not do normall pls go back pick up flowers or somting
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Thanks for the advice. Already said that i can not raid without LFR. But i AM a herbalist, so i will turn out well 
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No it doesn’t.
I rather do TW.
You do realize that Mithic + and daily emissaries, visions of N’zoth once unlocked, rewards better gear right ?
Cheers.
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Did you even read and comprehend any of the points I made?
When did I say I currently play LFR? I don’t. I miss MoP when LFR was actually enjoyable. I wish I wanted to do LFR every week. Half of my bullet points was that LFR is no longer rewarding.
Nothing I said had anything to do with ego or elitism, you should saw I was anti-LFR and had to chime in without actually thinking about the points you were replying to.
This could not be more wrong.
Four raid difficulties is simply too much, LFR and one other difficulty needs to go. But the issue of item level bloat is so bad I’d happily see any of the difficulties go.
Four raid difficulties a tier bloats the item level by 60-ish.
That means after 4 tiers a fresh max level character is going to be so far behind a geared one that you may as well consider yourself 10 levels behind still.
Which also contributes to how fast we get back to large numbers.
SL right now has health pools of like 20k? Give it two tiers and we will be back in the hundred thousands.
Gear bloat wasn’t this bad in Cata or MoP.
I know classic WoW isn’t that bad either, a lot of BiS pieces are acquired early on and last a long time.
I can’t speak for TBC or WOTLK. But ever since we went to 4 raid difficulties the game has struggled to control the power growth between patches.
I just explained you it is 30 ilvl per tier, and you come up with 60? Can you explain the 60 please? just an easy example for the math.
Nyalotha mythic = 475
Eternal palace = 445
Battle of Dazar = 415
Uldir = 385
It is 30.
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Simply put, LFR and LFD have been the favorite scapegoats of both the game design devs and the community when trying to excuse the decline in talent/understanding of the former and the decline in empathy of the later.
As much as I enjoyed the old fashion dungeon crawling of Classic and TBC, the process of finding all the people to form a group had been terrible.
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Love when an entire post gets ignored so you can focus on one tiny point that you think is in your favor.
It is 60 item levels per tier, with a 30 item level bloat.
It doesn’t matter if the lower difficulties overlap the old raid, as soon as the new one comes out the old one is made redundant. That only effects existing geared characters because they don’t need to bother with LFR.
For everyone else it is still 60 new item levels to climb. The benchmark of “low item level” increases, as well as the benchmark for “acceptable” and “good” item levels.
To put it into perspective, a M+10 in 8.2 used to give 440 gear.
You struggle to get into a M+2 in 440 gear in 8.3.
Without LFR the entry to normal was dungeon gear.
With LFR the entry to normal is LFR geared. That is an extra step of gearing up.
Without LFR the bloat is less. The number of how much bloat it provides really is not relevant. It aids to the bloat, that is undeniable, and the history of WoW shows that to be the case. Bloat was fine up until WoD.
You call my statement wrong so i only respond on that one.
It does matter it overlaps. If you played previous season you only have 30 ilvls. On any level that is. Also 430 to 475 is 45 ilvl. Your 60 is some sort of fantasy.
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