Why so toxic against boosted chars?

Aren’t people already boosting themselves with gold though?
At some point it became a nightmare to find a normal group for dungeons I wanted to do in classic.

I started originally to play at the old TBC prepatch and I do not remember such a massive dungeon boosting meta being in the game

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Out of all answers you don’t understand how boosts ruin the economy? You haven’t seen the bot plague in classic before boosts??. If you have to ask you’re extremely dull, sorry to say.

It is very specific. Any store mount devalues everything else there is to earn ingame. Mounts were a big part of TBC and still to day but moreso in the earlier days, especially unique looking mounts since they were – rare.

Ashes of Alar is not special compared to a Gryphon??? lol.

By old fashioned you mean mage boosting? xD

Sadly, but that’s ingame services. I have no issues with that as long as said economy is not for sale with IRL cash.

Speaking of IRL cash, I wonder who the classic farmbots farmed the gold for :wink:

Sadly this is Bobbyzard we talk about so they could not resist.

A more moral company who wanted to just add convenience would just give away like 1 free 58 boost per month for one to use as they please with no paid version

That is just made up rubbish, where is your proof that it’s increased bots, I haven’t seen it and I’ve been looking.

TBC pre-patch has done that too. reduced price and level.

Ashes is a flying mount, not something they are selling in the store so not comparable. I could buy mounts in the first few expansions, the RaF mount for instance added 2.4.3. You just referred yourself. The only difference with this mount is it scales so it saves a small amount of gold.

Mage boosting doesn’t mean that they can’t play their class.

Goldbuying for RL money should simply not be in the game. It’s blizzards responsibility to handle this problem but they are not handling it, they play into it for their own profit.

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I wonder if the bot companies pay them a cut under the table

So what?
I know people who level up themselves and are bad at the game.
How skilled players are does not correlate with character level.
A professional player could create a new character, does that mean hes suddenly bad at the game? Not really. Does he then deserve to skip leveling just because he has done it once on another char and knows how to play the game? Not really.

My point exactly, so why are people against the boost?

In my opinion it’s jealousy, they had to level to 60 so the boosters should too. That’s all, nothing but spite. And the thing is they won’t even admit it to themselves.

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I’m sorry, but I do think you actually did miss the point with Classic. As you said we wanted a faithful re-creation, but this is not it. And the boost and mount does in fact affect us. Here’s why: Back in the day the game was all about time investment; those that had put in the time was rewarded with a high level character, better gear and more unique mounts. Those that didn’t were left behind, which was viewed as a natural and fair part of the game.

So what happens when level boosts and store mounts gets introduced? We feel unmotivated to level because in the back of our minds we know we can simply pay to skip it. And because of its existence we feel less of an accomplishment and attachment to the character once level cap is reached, because most of it was a result of “click button, get reward”. And as for the mount it is 1 mount closer to the fiesta we have in Retail where no mounts are unique. It was a big deal back then to be one of a few to be in possession of a distinguished rare mount in a sea of ‘generic’ mounts, like racial mounts and wyverns/gryphons, due to visual distinguishment. Having 1 extra mount in the game which you get artificially outside the game, waters down the importance of mounts in-game which you earn legitimately.

On top of this the economy gets even worse, which will affect everyone. You want to raid or level your professions? Good luck, because the price of consumables will increase; and farming yourself becomes more difficult with all the flying druids and bots camping the spawns. And the increased prices will lead to more people buying gold. Even Sno from the TBC Roguecraft podcast, who is a pro-booster, admitted that the boost will affect the economy negatively. Go in-game and look at ZF and BRD and see how many boosted 58 mages and rogues there are (also Reddit post with screenshot about it prior to the new update).

The “click button, get reward” also breaks the feeling of immersion in the game, where randoms spawn at 58 with generic gear and a mount they didn’t pay/work for in-game. I hate it when the BG doors open and a swarm of lizard mounts run out; which feels out-of-place and takes me out of it. I know I’m not alone on this.

As soon as the boost became available I felt unmotivated to level manually because I know in the back of my mind I can just pay to skip it. Whenever I see the mount I get annoyed because it’s far too big, I think it’s rather ugly, and I think it’s rather un-immersive that a level 30 can ride it when he hasn’t even visited Outland yet, and the Portal isn’t even open! The boosted characters even get a letter from Khadgar, when the portal isn’t even open yet and in the game’s history he is presumed dead at this point! Wtf. Do you not see how it waters down the game and takes away from what made it special?

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So you are jealous that people can skip it with money when you worked for it, that sounds like what you are saying.

I boosted one char and I would buy another boost if I could, I spent enough time in this game already, not gonna spend another million hours leveling again, been there, done that more than enough, the game starts on level cap anyway.

Leveling is a chore. If the game started on level 70 I would have zero problems with it. I would pay 2x more to avoid it.

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You’re gonna get go back to retail messages for saying that, for these people the journey to 60 is part of the experience and anything not in the original classic is Heresy.

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Comes down to personal opinion. But ye, he will cause their personal opinion matters more then his according to them. And if you dont play the way they want you to play you should go back to retail.

Then proceed to preach how good classic is cause you can play the game how you want.

Oh boi im gonna get flammed for this :kissing:

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I played retail for like a month (Shadowlands) and it was horrible, even worse than classic where I played like 3 months and leveled this mage but got bored quickly. I came back for TBC because that’s my favourite expansion, but if I had to level again, same quests for like 20th time already, I would not be playing. That’s not fun, the fun starts on 70… and nobody is buying fully geared 70 chars with bought arena rating or bis pve gear… people just avoided vanilla leveling, that’s not an advantage in tbc and if anyone feels threatened or demotivated by it then I feel really sorry for them lol.

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It’s simply not jealousy. Not everyone is emotionally unstable and people would even admit it if they were jealous. Do you think a simple emotion is the reason why the boost isn’t welcome? There are multiple reasons why the boost is bad.
The main reason for me: The company that sells the game also sells the boost → Its a way of them admitting their game is so bad that people want to skip a large part of the content. They admit that they want to target players (the ones who only play it if there is a boost) and get them to play their game because they want more money.

boosts devalue the whole game.
I would rather throw 100$ out of the window than buy a boost.

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I get it, I have many characters between 20 and 40, those zones are really boring for me.

I have a friend who plays Cyberpunk 2077 and has restarted it 6 or 7 times just so they can do it again. I’m not one of those people.

I doubt most people would so they come up with other reasons, most of which cannot be proven to admonish those who do it.

Look at it this way, people have played it so many times that it’s not enjoyable anymore. It’s not bad content just a bit tedious for some. Please notice I said some, others like it and can’t understand why people want to skip 58 levels of it.

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No I’d like to pay for my enjoyment the tears and idiotic whining about how someone else enjoys the game while nothing is being taken away from them and they are not forced to buy it makes it just oh so much better

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Is it really surprising to you that in a game that is this big people don’t like every part of it equally? Of course leveling is less fun than gameplay on lvl cap (where there is most content of the game) for most people. It’s not a coincidence that with new patches only endgame content is added.