Why the BG change must be stopped

I played ret pally for pvp fun i classic vanilla, and the orc racial was absolutely broken.

It still is broken in tbc. And we don’t have many warlocks on our team in tbc, there might be one or so, and maybe a warrior or two. And if they can’t cc anything cause of OP racials on the horde side, then we can’t win any fight near any objectives in the bgs. Horde goes deep with aoe fears and lots of stun. All allies Are cc’d into oblivion making us lose so hard.

That again leads to ppl give up and we end up with scraps of honor. Getting pvp gear as ally is also insanely painful to grind now.

Sure we have short ques, bit short ques for what ? Just to end up frustrated and pissed off until logging off for another game instead.

Pvp as ally is really really painful ( for the ones not doing premades ). Im nearly at a point where i consider giving up bgs all together, and I’ve been playing mainly bgs since 2004.

Yes this is a player made issue, same as the horde ques are, and if blizz fixes the player made issue for horde, then ally should also get a fix.

Bump 10 char.

Sorry OP but the metaslaves won.

Im whit you, if horde dont take the queue fix also Alliance have to lose the seal of Blood and they have to put back the battlegroup like in the old tbc, soo the queue for Alliance Will be 1 hour too and we can take pvp Gear at the same time.
You like it? You like the purist way?

How exactly would you battlegroups work so ally would have ques? And horde would have insta q at the same time?

I made an irony, I said precisely that if it has to be as it was tbc then they have to put the battlegroups back, you can’t just accept what suits you

Whitout same faction battleground plus battlegroup also Alliance sit in shat for 1 hour believe me

Seal of blood crap can be easily taken away for all i care. It’s not many rets around anyways.

And our que time would in any way not be 1 hour no matter what you say. Zug zug dude

Talk how much you want, the Blizzard have told what they want, if you wanna leave because you believe that you deserve One advantage because your faction dont want play battleground, Will miss you, take care babyboy

I don’t want any advantage. But I don’t want a fix which might really harm the ally faction. Rather look into why ally won’t do pvp, and why ppl on general won’t play ally.

Try other ways to fix it. Even tho i hate merc mode, i still think merc is 100 times better as hvh.

Dont worry the mercenary mode never affect your faction because this expansion you can find the horde match easy whitout battlegroup, its me that i have to face horde team, so take care about the problem that go against your faction

Still it would be near 100% loss rate for me since most of the ally are muppets in bgs. So this won’t fix anything for the ally.

I dont know which bgs you have done but me and almost all horde are 2 weeks that facing premade Alliance that spawn ganking us After 40 Min queue.
So, you Need One advantage in queue time because you find noobs when you play bgs?

Not advantage, just a possibility to play and not lay dead the whole BG. That is just as much a human made problem as you horde had which made the ques long. Why should horde get a fix and not ally ?

There Is a fix for Alliance:
They try to give a motivation for Alliance players to join bg, because they do almost all pve, they limit the premade to 5 so you have more casual players in both faction.
The problem for the queue Is made from Alliance that dont care about pvp, the same Alliance that cry here on the forum because horde ask to play against themself.
Its a test and they try to find a solution for both faction

I would like to see what kind of consumes and so on we get from bgs before i call it a motivation. If it’s pvp pots and such crap then it’s no motivation at all. That’s just annoying crap which will fill the bags.

And even if it motivates, it will still be muppets who don’t give a crap about winning.

So there is no fix for the ally win rate

They have also monitoring the win lose for the both faction, normally the Gear pvp have to be one motivation for join bg, but you guys need other stuff for do it, its a plus that you blame and dont deserve.
There Is no fix for noob players, if you find a lock in your team that dont have fear in the action bar how they can fix It?
Just join other 4 people and play. Its only a bg, the real pvp competitive in tbc Is the arena, if you cannot take the Gear for do that, this Is a problem

LOL try again.

Because you are playing a Mass Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game. Every decision of every player should affect you. It’s designed to affect you.

That’s on them “shrug”. You get a perfect solution that helps the bigger problem and preserves your character progress. The fact that those people don’t want to take it, just shows what spoiled brats they are. Let them quit!

No, they haven’t. The first expansion where alliance have better racials is literally Shadowlands and by this point, nobody cares anymore. The game has been a mono faction since Cata.

I couldn’t care less about PvP servers. I’d rather have them nuked outright, but HvH BGs are a good second-best choice.

Instead we’ll almost surely get same faction BGs, and Allies will have to deal with it whether they like it or not.

And I frankly couldn’t care less. I have yet to see what the existence of Ally players does to me, exactly. In fact, if my server was mono faction like Mankrik US, I’d prolly have a better time. If Alliance players want to quit because of this change, I’ll cheer to that. Sadly, I actually expect our server to get more PvP server refugees than rerollers, but such is life. Maybe one day we’ll actually see a Horde-dominated EU PvE server, who knows.

Mix both teams 50/50 instead

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