Why the hell the DK nerf mid expansion?

[Merv-argent-dawn]

@Plaguedaddy-thekal

frost rerolling as well, i think that the nerf to unholy is just very sad, half the time the gargoyle just does melee attacks and they dont fix that, but they nerf us because sometimes we get fat snapshots and the bat attacks?

They nerfed Unholy since it was doing too much dmg.
Stop whining, Unholy will still do good dmg, and there is always frost.

All the whine in here from DKs is pathetic.
DKs are still crazy strong.
Babies!

[Miylee-twilights-hammer]

@Plaguedaddy-thekal

frost rerolling as well, i think that the nerf to unholy is just very sad, half the time the gargoyle just does melee attacks and they dont fix that, but they nerf us because sometimes we get fat snapshots and the bat attacks?

They “nerfed” you because your spec was disgustingly broken. Literally broken, by the way.

And respeccing =/= rerolling. You aren’t starting a new character from scratch, you’re just swapping some talent points. Boo hoo, woe is you.

Now cry more, scrubknight tears are delicious.

[Runecall-mograine]

@Miylee-twilights-hammer

@Plaguedaddy-thekal

frost rerolling as well, i think that the nerf to unholy is just very sad, half the time the gargoyle just does melee attacks and they dont fix that, but they nerf us because sometimes we get fat snapshots and the bat attacks?

They “nerfed” you because your spec was disgustingly broken. Literally broken, by the way.

And respeccing =/= rerolling. You aren’t starting a new character from scratch, you’re just swapping some talent points. Boo hoo, woe is you.

Now cry more, scrubknight tears are delicious.

if only it was that easy,

We got wrong gear just before ulduar release and above all (for horde) WRONG RACE.

They should at least give dks a free race change after that pointless and unjustified nerf mid expansion.

[Miylee-twilights-hammer]

@Runecall-mograine

They should at least give dks a free race change after that pointless and unjustified nerf mid expansion.

Stop. My sides.

You’re killing me xD

[Jeynar-earthshaker]

@Phantomx-firemaw

( and thats only because naxx bosses are minimum 3 minutes)

Uh… wat.

You’re out there getting double gargs and my laid back guild doesn’t even let me get off double wings.

Yeah, sorry, I don’t think the garg nerf is going to change much for you

@Phantomx-firemaw

I am rerolling to frost

So you never played unholy cause you enjoyed it, gotcha.

[Jeynar-earthshaker]

@Runecall-mograine

We got wrong gear just before ulduar release and above all (for horde) WRONG RACE.

Oh no, the horror.

Reminder: rets were told “just spec prot or holy” and warriors were told “just sunder”.

And you think you’ve been treated badly cause of a fix for the most obvious bug in the entirety of classic. That you specifically rolled with. It’s utterly hilarious.

[Runecall-mograine]

@Jeynar-earthshaker

@Runecall-mograine

We got wrong gear just before ulduar release and above all (for horde) WRONG RACE.

Oh no, the horror.

Reminder: rets were told “just spec prot or holy” and warriors were told “just sunder”.

And you think you’ve been treated badly cause of a fix for the most obvious bug in the entirety of classic. That you specifically rolled with. It’s utterly hilarious.

You are missing the point,

YOU KNEW before launch what to expect,

DKs just got told one day all their gearing effort, time investment, profession leveling etc is wasted, JUST BEFORE Ulduar release.

If you do not get the difference stop trolling in post about a change that does not affect you. This is a serious issuee for dks.

Just all other forums troll gathered and ruined what could have been conversation of arguments and data, instead of a conversation with feelings and trolling.

[Miylee-twilights-hammer]

@Runecall-mograine

You are missing the point,

YOU KNEW before launch what to expect,

DKs just got told one day all their gearing effort, time investment, profession leveling etc is wasted, JUST BEFORE Ulduar release.

If you do not get the difference stop trolling in post about a change that does not affect you. This is a serious issuee for dks.

Just all other forums troll gathered and ruined what could have been conversation of arguments and data, instead of a conversation with feelings and trolling.

laugh harder

[Jeynar-earthshaker]

@Runecall-mograine

YOU KNEW before launch what to expect,

LOL.

This is the dumbest argument in the entire world cause you KNEW before the launch that garg wasn’t supposed to auto fire like this either.

And then you went along with it anyway.

Again, if you didn’t know garg wasn’t working as intended you didn’t play og. You can’t have both.

[Runecall-mograine]

@Jeynar-earthshaker

@Runecall-mograine

YOU KNEW before launch what to expect,

LOL.

This is the dumbest argument in the entire world cause you KNEW before the launch that garg wasn’t supposed to auto fire like this either.

And then you went along with it anyway.

Again, if you didn’t know garg wasn’t working as intended you didn’t play og. You can’t have both.

NO I did not knew about it any many players did no either, this should either be changed BEFORE launch or never changed afterwards. I can not predict the future stupid decisions blizzard will make.

And yes I did play back in wrath but played frost dk dps, everybody was a noob back then. Almost nobody knew about snapshotting etc. I dont even know why you even used that argument anyway.

The point is,

Blizzard ruined all of our efforts, time and fun within one day. Everything else is just for show…

[Meristu-silvermoon]

I dont know what I love more, all the fotm reroller tears, or palas coming back with full “just go prot” hard on xD …

You should check US forums, didnt see this many tears since plaguelands xD …

[Runecall-mograine]

@Meristu-silvermoon

I dont know what I love more, all the fotm reroller tears, or palas coming back with full “just go prot” hard on xD …

You should check US forums, didnt see this many tears since plaguelands xD …

Just because some rerolled it doesnt mean WE ALL DID. Stop with that stupid argument. Go check up my logs and of other dks. UH + troll since week one.

Some rerolled yes but most did not. Educate yourself and think before talking.

[Miylee-twilights-hammer]

DKs last week:

Its Morbin' Time (Original Clip)

DKs now:

man crying meme

@Runecall-mograine

Just because some rerolled it doesnt mean WE ALL DID. Stop with that stupid argument. Go check up my logs and of other dks. UH + troll since week one.

Some rerolled yes but most did not. Educate yourself and think before talking.

If you didn’t reroll to play the broken spec, you roll’d what you wanted because you enjoyed it. So why then did you post this utter garbage:

@Runecall-mograine

We got wrong gear just before ulduar release and above all (for horde) WRONG RACE.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not actively discouraging you from posting all of your idiotic whine posts. They’re god damn hilarious, the forums haven’t been this entertaining in years!

[Meristu-silvermoon]

Rogues have the usual Pserver “upgrade” in form of infinite energy, it was one of the first things I tried before they launched wotlk prepatch …

Not sure about that one, although I have some idea how it works, but there are mages doing 100% on bosses with pyroblasts only …

Instant casts (pom/em/ns) staying on for multiple casts, still in the game …

So should these people just say zog it, and have rogues with infinite energy doing 80k dps in blue gear ?
Well thats how it works now, we did all the sims, got all the cool gear for it, blizz cant just fix this … and to be honest, unlike gatling gargoyle, infinite energy rogues existed in original wotlk …

Then when blizz fixes this stuff, they will flood forums crying about time investment and ask for free race swap etc …

@Runecall-mograine

Go check up my logs and of other dks. UH + troll since week one.

Yes I am sure xD and if someone simmed draenei holy priest being the best wotlk DPS you would be draenei holy priest since week one …

PS: asking for free race change just so you can change your race to fit your new spec better the second its suddenly not the most broken is exactly what fotm reroller means xD

[Warfury-bloodhoof]

hmm interesting take.

[Bowdi-mograine]

@Runecall-mograine

EXACLTY thats why the title of the post says MID EXPANSION.

How can phase 1 out of 4 be the middle?

If I understand correct you are upset about a bug fix. Take a look here:

https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Patches/3.x

Almost every single path had bug fixes back in WOTLK

[Jeynar-earthshaker]

@Runecall-mograine

NO I did not knew about it any many players did no either

And you’re in here claiming that warriors and rets should know how bad they’d be compared to the OG.

Curious. Really really curious.

lmao.

[Runecall-mograine]

@Jeynar-earthshaker

@Runecall-mograine

NO I did not knew about it any many players did no either

And you’re in here claiming that warriors and rets should know how bad they’d be compared to the OG.

Curious. Really really curious.

lmao.

Dude knowing how a whole class performs and knowing how exactly a minor mechanic of a class spell works is different.

I personally knew that warrior just need armpen to shine which means lategame they are number 1 dps and that rets need t10 to perform well.

Knowing that and knowing how a spell functioned exactly when there is no good ingame documentation is different.

But again, if it was not supposed to work like that it should have been fixed BEFORE launch. Its not like its a bug that was discovered midgame. The players knew, the devs knew and they let it go for 3 -4 months.

And all those crying about OG and OG… the gargoyle we have right now on the PTR IS NOT EVEN THAT.

Even blizzard does not follow the “OG” design.

It has nothing to do about the original game. There are already tones of differences. The reason why me and other dks are angry is because this change comes at the worst timing possible. It should have been fixed before launch.

[Meristu-silvermoon]

@Runecall-mograine

minor mechanic

Thats responsible for 354135411 threads about dk being literally unplayable and which makes up how much of your dmg ?

@Runecall-mograine

just need armpen to shine which means lategame they are number 1 dps and that rets need t10 to perform well.

Well so they will suck 3 tiers out of 4 and uh dks will shine 1 tier out of 4 … what a change … and unlike DKs which are still broken, warr and pala sucks …

@Runecall-mograine

there is no good ingame documentation is different.

Really ? It takes like 5 second to type into google “wow wiki summon gargoyle” and its right at the top
https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Summon_Gargoyle

@Runecall-mograine

And all those crying about OG and OG… the gargoyle we have right now on the PTR IS NOT EVEN THAT.

Even blizzard does not follow the “OG” design.

Because those two unpaid interns working half time on classic are incapable of reworking whole core to make it go from MoP to wotlk … and dont tell me you all wouldnt be here crying, if they actually made the garg as useless as it was originally on wotlk …

@Runecall-mograine

The reason why me and other dks are angry

If yall fotm rerollers went to PTR and made feedback about DK not working properly, instead of hoping on the hype train, the situation would be completely different …
You wont find a single UH DK here making posts “We are too broken and its unfair to other players, please fix gargoyle”

[Beckeeh-nethergarde-keep]

@Runecall-mograine

And all those crying about OG and OG… the gargoyle we have right now on the PTR IS NOT EVEN THAT.

UH DK-s tears would be even more saltier if blizzard nerfed back to the OG Gargoyle mechanics.
So as i’ve said before you should be happy that they didn’t destroy the spec totally, you just got a well deserved nerf to downtune your broken spec to be fair.