even levelling dungeons will be a pain with new players who have boosted and have no idea how to play. Also, having more people at the right level for outland at launch is going to contribute to lag and overcrowding in the open world. This will also result in more layers existing which will F up the economy even more in the long term making the game even less friendly for future new players. Yes, even without the boost there would be bad players still but the rate at which you will interact with them will be increased (there will be more of them at that level range).
Well, we all think differently and enjoy the game differently. At least you’ll have a game that you enjoy… unless blizz do what people like me have been calling for (which they probably won’t).
‘even levelling dungeons will be a pain with new players who have boosted and have no idea how to play. Also, having more people at the right level for outland at launch is going to contribute to lag and overcrowding in the open world. This will also result in more layers existing which will F up the economy even more in the long term making the game even less friendly for future new players. Yes, even without the boost there would be bad players still but the rate at which you will interact with them will be increased (there will be more of them at that level range).’
i saw this repeted a few times and dont think its going to be a real problem, just an against argument people seem to like rattling off.
for it to be a problem in the first place, the person boosting needs to be BRAND new - not someone boosting after playing classic, coming from a private server or returning to play bc.
then they have to get to 70 at all - it doesnt sound unreasonable to say that BRAND new players who boost might not make it to 70 at all. then they have to have learned next to nothing in the 12 levels - and im not sure how realstic that is expecially given that the game and most classes are real simple AND there are LOADS more guides etc avaialble now vs what there was back then.
and then you would have to try to distingush between the boosters that are bad and the people who didnt boost but are just as bad - we all know there are some really bad players.
These seems like a tiny tiny problem looking at it practically.
You do have an elitist mindset…nobody is saying so called ‘good players’ should carry so called ‘bad players’
but what i see happening is usually some better geared players help guildies farm gear, if this is what you mean then boost shouldn’t make any odds, within a guild you work as a team regardless of boosting, and outside of a guild you are just running content and any kind of RIO score should shove it self up its own back end
projecting much
hmmm
insult
insult
and of course, not a single non hardcore player can log in
you may not have directly called players names but you have spoken/written with a view that you are better than everyone else, you’ve done so in subtle polite ways but the vibe is hard to hide.
not you, however someone from your side of the debate acting as if they can inflict their version of how the game be played (the US poster)
and on this,
no i do not believe you, you are basically saying you are prepared to ignore and snub what is arguably 1 of the greatest expansions to the game just because some random elf used a boost. a character you will most likely never meet or interact with as its not from your current circle of friends.
you carry on saying you wont play it, i know its just saving face and making a point, and so does everyone else.
again, here, you assume boosted players will be bad, why, because they didnt spam something for 58 levels? boosted characters will likely be folks who know exactly how to play that class, this is basically you going
“my dungeon groups will be harder, pls blizz do something”
well it’s settled then. You don’t think it’s going to be a real problem so my arguments are void. Congratulations!
This was who I was referring to, correct. However, even if you’re an experienced player but boost a class you’ve never played before, you’re probably going to be bad at it.
so why even have the boost? If they can’t even make it to 58 what makes you think they can do the grind to 70 plus all that is required of them at end game?
perhaps but they are just 1 problem of many and they all snow ball with each other. Each problem amplifies the other.
Sorry if I seem apathetic to this discussion but people on your side just keep repeating the same stuff that I’ve already responded to with the same answer a million times and then replied to again when they reply to the previous message and I kind of refuse to do it again. I’ve made more counters to your kind of arguments, just scroll up and read the thread. Your ideas aren’t new on this thread.
You mean raider IO? I hate that addon
No I don’t
it’s what your, and others in your camp’s arguments imply.
what guilds decide to do to help their newer members is completely different from the just the general population and bumping into people from other guilds.
if what is what I mean?
nope
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
the blind part was inappropriate. Shill I feel was not an insult, it was an accurate description. What I should have said is ‘‘please don’t blindly shill for a company’’
Taken out of context. Also, they insulted me, it was merely a witty retort to trolls. You can’t expect me to put in effort to low effort replies. Also, I believe in eye for an eye.
also taken completely out of context. In context, this was me merely trying to explain to the person that with the way they thought, they weren’t going to understand what I was saying by me explaining it further. Wasn’t an insult on their intelligence.
no I haven’t
no you don’t know that and nobody else does either. I will repeat, I will not play. The character I was going to play on TBC launch is currently level 30 (yes, I have a 60 already but wasn’t going to play it in TBC) but I’ve been too busy recently to level him.
I’m assuming that new players who boosted will be bad and that experienced players who’ve never played the class they’ve boosted before will maybe be bad and that I will encounter more bad players than I otherwise would have if the boost didn’t exist.
Not everyone does this, especially not NEW players.
1 point out of all the points made on this thread and yes, it does ruin the experience for many players when your dungeons are slow and filled with deaths due to bad player. (not because the content is hard but because someone is just extremely bad and dragging down the rest of the group)
either see you in bc meaning this was just a gigantic whingefest that you didnt back up or wont see you there for one of the most ridiculous reasons ever - like someone above said its unlikely youd ever meet seomeone who boosted and could tell they were a booster. either way its fkin lose lose for you and the rest of your camp who think they can deny people the boost because they cried so much without ever putting together even 1 good reason why its bad. ill say that again - not one of the few, loud anti boosters has said anything compelling about why it shouldnt happen. and talk about being crappy debaters.
nice way to focus on ONE word of my entire response. This is why I cba talking to you mate. ‘Perhaps’ wasn’t agreement, it was me being impartial. There is no rebuttal I can say to that statement because it’s shallow and meaningless. It’s just you trying to say that you don’t think it’s a problem.
And because you did this to me, I am not going to bother responding to the rest of your paragraph. I’ve not even read it. You get what you give. I’m tired and you’re wasting my remaining energy.
Once you reach 87 replies, you start to tire of dealing with people being lazy like yourself and expecting me to bite back.
on this alone, your attitude should be to help that person, heck even in retail i mostly encounter decent attitudes in levelling dungeons, all you do is explain the basics of what they need to do, or to stop doing the 1 very bad thing they are doing.
this paints a picture to me that you dont want to do that sort of thing, therefore you want only good player groups which is kinda sad imo
why SHOULD it be? This is exactly what I was saying before, people like you expect the experienced players to carry the bad ones. We don’t!
it depends but idealistically I won’t have to teach someone something every dungeon because bad players won’t be abundant everywhere at inflated rates due to boosts.
that isnt expecting to be carried, expecting to be carried would be going into the dungeon and doing very little to help the group intentionally to get the rewards.
what i’m referring to is simply providing a quick ‘/w playerX hey dude try using this instead of that’, its just being a nice person.
even well versed players might not be aware of 1 specific thing that happens in 1 specific encounter.
i doubt you will as you’d be levelling up in no time and no longer playing dungeons (i assume of course), however if you want to filter away ‘bad players’ maybe you need to ‘go to retail’ apparently its -----------> that way ? there you will find in game tools and addons to help you filter away these filthy time wasting good for nothing tourists.
big lulz. getting banned for kicking someone from your group.
I will make sure not only to kick them but also corpse camp those enemy faction boosters I see with that boostie gear.
I’m pretty sure you can get banned if you kick people for this reason alone. It’s harassment.
I will make sure to report all of you either way.
Also, honest advice, you need to grow up. I feel like your life revolves around this game and your ideals of how it should be played. I feel sorry for anybody who’s life is so empty.
Also most of you that cry now will get over it really quick. I spent enough time on these forums to know that much.
Kicking someone from the group I am making is not only harrassment but it’s also sexual assault. Make sure to call the police as well after you’re done with reporting.
Kicking someone because they accessed a Blizzard official service alone should be a bannable offense, yes.
I will stop replying to you because I’m afraid I will lose it and say something I will regret later. You’re obviously very immature and frustrated. Don’t reply to me anymore.
I disagree and will keep replying to you. I haven’t seen a better entertainment in any circus I’ve gone to. When I see peepos like you it boosts my morale. Thanks again.
Making false reports is a bannable offense, haven’t seen where kicking someone from your own group is.
Kicking someone from a group is not against ToS but when you make it a rule to harass anybody who used the boost then that’s when you’re swimming in muddy waters.
The fact that you insist to argue and reply again tells me that you’re very frustrated. I don’t know how old you are, but I hope you’re young enough to have an excuse at least.
Because right now you’re just acting like an angry little toddler.