Why the level 58 boost is bad for the game #stoptheboost

Mate, you’re being obtuse. If you want to be COMPETITIVE (see definition), then you MAY feel compelled (situationally / circumstantially) to do whatever you can to remain ahead of the curve. If I want to be a top player on my server, in theory, I farm gold all day and night that I can when I haven’t got other things to do in the game and then buy gold on top of that to double my amount. Or, I might have to invest some of my game time into other activities thus you would buy gold to make up for that lost time.

Let’s say I am in a top guild and you know the guild your competing with is buying gold, you don’t think that your guild is now going to feel like they have to buy gold to stay in the race with them? Of course they are and they aren’t unreasonable to feel that way.

But if the risk of being banned is too high or all the suppliers are banned, then the behaviour is reduced / made less worth while and won’t feel as compelling to do so.

You know I find it quite ironic that you complain that I don’t empathise with the way other people play the game and I don’t understand about players who have busy lives and can’t play much whilst you have almost no empathy or understanding for those who play the game seriously and competitively and find joy in the game through beating other players.

Competitive is a mindset not a defined list of activities

yea but point is prob a lot of people want it cuz u know…without demand they prob wouldnt implement it

but the demand wasn’t that you could specifically pay for a boost on the existing realms. My point is that the survey isn’t a good basis to assume the demand for what they’ve implemented because it wasn’t specific enough on the survey and definitely gave me a different impression of what they had in mind.

There are many better ways they could do this that wouldn’t bother me. See my solution at the bottom of the OP. In short, add fresh realms (that can’t be transferred to) with boost, remove boost from existing realms.

And due to the cost, I don’t think so much that there is a massive demand for pay boosts by most players but that a small minority will always whale on the cash shop which means blizz will undoubtedly make great returns on this addition. Especially considering if you want to buy more than 1, u also have to pay for another sub as well.

we dont know the cost yet…and also…(thats just a speculation) by the way they worded it ''pricing and availability will be announced soon ‘’ lets me to think that the boost will maybe?? be available only in phase 1 for example…so only for a specific time period most likely at the begging on the xpac

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it isn’t. They’ve said ‘pricing TBA’ not TBD. Quite clear. ‘Pricing and availability’ is just legal speak. Availability could just be them leaving the door open to make changes to the restrictions like letting people have more than 1 per account or letting draenei and belves boost. Not saying they would but their just leaving the legal footnote for the freedom to do so.

Also, having it only in phase 1 kinda eliminates a lot of the arguments for the defence of the boost. Like, surely if it’s for players who don’t have enough time to get 58 to do TBC, then what about those players who were busy during phase 1 and need a boost now in phase 2?

I think an educated guess is that the boost will be similar to retail.

that remains to be seen…i for one think it will be very limited and potentially not available in the later phases…but those are just speculations…time will tell

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agreed

just the limits they’ve already announced which aren’t good enough for me

kind of defeats a lot of the arguments I’ve seen in defence of the boost. Also, because there’s a price involved means that they wouldn’t do this.

How can you say it’s the same?

One is using your commitment to the game and the effort you put in to get a service : you’re buying an in-game service through in-game earned gold, gold that you earned with in-game effort. It’s on the level of buying the Lionheart helm because you don’t want to level Blacksmithing and farm the materials to craft it.

The other is instant gratification and advantage through monetary payment, on the same level as the “pay-to-win” notion (Would have been called so if pvp was on the main scene, but it’s mainly a pve game).

You can’t blame the players for what some of them does, especially since the overwhelming majority agrees that gold-buying and selling should be forbidden. What can I do to prevent it, find the gold buyers and sellers’ locations and kill them? This is a matter that Blizzard needs to fix.

the reason i am saying this is because the boost seems targeted by the people that didnt played classic and want to be there when the black portal opens…but who knows…having the boost buyable only for a specific time frame its just what i understood the way the worded

There’s no motivation strong enough to cheat. If you’re telling me that being at the top implies cheating then you’re not really deserving the top, are you? You’re not really as competitive as you want to appear.

Being competitive is a mindset yes but being a cheater is just being a cheater no matter what’s your motivation.

So cheating is fine as long as you don’t get caught?
It’s Blizzard’s fault for not dealing with bots and gold farmers but it’s equally player’s for helping these communities grow and get stronger.

Beating other while cheating is not beating them. It’s just a race of who cheats better.

It’s also ironic that you think that’s okay and it’s all Blizzard’s fault and not the players while bashing the leveling boost for a new expansion. A boost that will not make you competitive in any way nor will it get you on top of the ladder.

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the concept is the same u pay to skip content and ‘‘instant gratification and advantage through monetary payment’’?? really?? u gonna get a lvl 58 with slow mount and blue gear.thats no where near having an advantage

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Well no, if you can’t put in the time it takes, the game is not for you. Quite simple. With everyone new player getting a boost none of them will be able to buy flying mount, and therefore won’t be able to do the karazhan attunement and will start complain and ask for a wow token.

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Man, stop this nonsense. You all use the same baseless accusations.

I don’t care how any of you leveled your characters. But from what I see here, most of you “antiboosters” are happily supporting illegitimate communities and encourage in game boosting. The hypocrisy is strong in some of the Classic players.

All things considered, I hope that Blizzard will go with the boosting, even for the simple fact that you lack moral honesty and suffer from some superiority complex.

I’m out.

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You’re saying that it is not enough of an advantage to be relevant.

I’m saying that it is still an advantage.

Granted, that’s not enough of an advantage to “bother” those who are already stacked in gear and gold with 3 alts ready.

That won’t change the fact that you are paying real-money to instantly gain an advantage over those who do not pay. The same line as “pay-to-win”.

that sounds incredibly ignorant…i have 2 buddies that wanna join classic tbc because of the boost cuz they wanna tryhard end game tbc and not go through the miserable ‘’ journey’’ they would have to endure otherwise with an empty world…if someone buys a boost that doesnt automatically means they are just a ‘‘tourist’’ player and leave after 1 month

ok pls tell me what advantages u get??? and what exactly do you ‘‘win’’? the only ‘‘advantage’’ i can think of is skipping an empty world ruined by mage boosters

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I did not say it was “pay-to-win”, I said it is the same line as “pay-to-win” :

You are using your wallet to skip the effort and time of leveling and get instantly rewarded. That’s the advantage.

Not a big advantage? That’s fine, that’s still an advantage over those who don’t pay. In a competitive game, this would be called pay-to-win.

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all i hear from this ‘‘antiboost’’ posts is ‘‘i dont want people to enjoy the content i will enjoy without going through a miserable experience first…one that I (the antibooster) didnt had to experience in the first place’’ lol…who cares if people buy a limited boost as long as it brings more people into the community thus making it bigger and healthier

That’s your answer to all the arguments given? Congratulations on not being able to think. I guess I will save us time by not answering you anymore.

Some servers don’t need more players for starters… There is 30sec delay laggfest in Stormwind on peak hours every day.
Also, you don’t think a free boost will increase the faction inbalanse, the class inbalanse?