Who decides that?
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Blizzard did in 2004
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Blizzard 2004 doesnt exsist anymore, so 
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No but my point is that Classic is a recreation of Vanilla therefore, the boost shouldnt be in the game.
Also the video I linked above is a good watch
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We both know that you canât understand that from my long post, it was very clearly written.
You pretend to âget the sensation of itâ because you know as much as I do that you are 100% wrong, you know that boosts and real money transactions will run the game to the ground and we both also know that you are a precious snowflake who canât play the game properly without resorting to real life money cheating.
So, I will rather not waste more time on it.
ps: Also, nice attempt. You managed to get a few messages in after that which are totally useless and probably will be successful in derailing the topic and pulling attention elsewhere. 100% good at forum trolling.
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Seems you have a hard time answering a simple yes or no question without insults.
Thatâs sad.
I donât pretend to get the sensation of it, youâre actually screaming it out loud.
So i dont know who is the real snowflake here., but your entire post of your story screams of entitlement and snowflakeism ( i know, itâs not a real word )
I played WoW on and off since Open Beta back in 2004, I have bought a few boost over the years ( 2 or 3 ) and yet here I am still and looking forward to relive TBC.
I dont have the same issues you have with the boost and I doubt it will ruin the game as you say it will, it might have some impact, but I dont think it will ruin the game.
âBTW Ian never mentioned Boosts in the video you postedâ
Hillarious
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Simply because you donât deserve an answer. Why would I dignify you with one?
You are here to cherry pick and derail proper discussions with your one sentence nonsense, Iâve seen it before. You get roasted in an actual debate and go to step one.
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A âcashopâ was introduced with the âboost me to 60 mages, I have gold!â meta through RMT and the GDKP meta âHow much gold should I buy tonight to get me fat lootzâ. This is not Blizz cashshop, fair enough, but it is there and massively screwed the Classic experience for many.
I agree 100% with what you write on a theoretical level. But this is not - at least my- reality of the state of Classic today. Up to phase 5 it was fine. Then it went pretty bad quickly (on the botting / rmt market thing).
I admit I am not fan of 58 boost either but thatâs what will bring more people to tbc and I am okey with that. These new players that used boost still donât have gold and they need to farm stuff so I donât see a big problem with that because most of my friends donât really want to lvl up again from 1-58 and they lvled up characters too many times already in 10+ different private tbc servers so they will gladly buy boost for ⏠and for blizz itâs EZ money. I rather prefer boost 1 per account then fresh tbc server/s because then I need to lvl up again my alts or main that I have already maxed out with gear and I donât want to do that + all stuff that I farmed. if they make fresh tbc servers then soo many people leave classic - tbc progression servers so they can lvl up on fresh and âweâ will loose a lot of people or open window for ppl to play on fresh rather then with us on progression servers. Overall I see why boost is bad in general because its against mmorpg spirit and lvling experience but then again blizzard just want to open up doors for playerbase and people who only interested in doing tbc content and donât have time or patience to lvl up to 58. In other words blizzard going for casual playerbase thatâs why they donât do anything about bots, boosters or multiboxers to keep classic mmorpg experience fair for everyone who is playing it.
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Thatâs your friends fault for burning out then.
That doesnt justify the boost
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boost as I said before are made for players that play casualy or donât have time/patience to lvl up to 58 without boosts and also its easy money for blizzard from those people who want to jump into outlands asap without lvling. I just gave my friends example as an excuse why boost is not that bad as some people think . A lot of ppl ignore lvling anyway and want do end game content asap and anyway all private tbc servers mostly have 5x exp rates so ppl can skip classic(vanilla) lvling.
I played casually and still managed to hit 60 despite having a full time job.
Putting convience into the game removes the sense of adventure and achivement
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I agree with what you saying totally and I am not a big fan of boost either but I am not against it as well as we know we already have boosting in classic, bots and mutiboxers and while those exist I donât see boost from1-58 as bad as it might be in that regard.
Thing is once you allow Blizzard to include one thing (in this case a boost) then youâll slowly start to see other âservicesâ
Name change
Faction Change
Race Change
Then itâll be consemtic items
Mounts and pets
Before you know it you have a shop like retail
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and yet we have server transfers available, whats next?
Fresh servers doesnât mean that all current characters will be deleted. There can be a few fresh servers in addition to what we currently have as progression servers, they arenât mutually exclusive to each other.
I donât agree with you calling it the âcasual playerbaseâ, because I was casual for a while when I had a great job, I never asked for boosts or I never wanted the game to give me what I want in a silver platter for real money. There are a lot of casual players that arenât greedy entitled snowflakes. They take the integrity and spirit of the game before their own personal desires.
But then there is no way for Blizzard to know if a player buying the boost have actually levelled before or not. So there might be exceptions like your friends but all the bots, newbies, dubai princes with 1 million euros that want to invest in tailor/alch profession characters etc. will be in the same basket with your friends.
There will be (my estimation) very very very very few actual players that will use the boost to âplay with his friendsâ compared to people that will use the boost for ill purposes like to dominate the economy or use it for botting/cheating etc.
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Killing 40 worgs in a zone stuffed to the brim with other players so that youâre standing around constantly waiting for respawns, and then having to compete with umpteen zillion others to get the tag once it does spawn, so that a quest that would usually take 40 minutes takes two hours / vs / a quiet zone where you can just farm them in peace?
Hmm, let me thinkâŠ
All I seem to be reading from the pro-pay-to-winners on this thread are two identical circular arguments, which break down to:
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I donât have time to play the game I purchased so I want to skip sections of it.
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Other people do bad stuff, so that means itâs OK for us to do bad stuff.
Iâve yet to hear any other argument in favour of pay-to-win, and both of these positions are pure nonsense.
The premise behind the first argument assumes that the game is some kind of race, or time-limited construct that will punish you for not completing it quickly enough, when clearly this is not the case. TBC isnât going anywhere. They are not intending to pull the plug after six months, or auto-delete any characters that have not reached 70 in two months.
If these people are concerned that they will fall behind their friends who will start raiding without them, then, all I can say is that if you can only log in for five hours-per-week you probably donât have time to raid either. TBC and Vanilla raiding were never initially designed as an all-inclusive activity, they were designed for people who put a lot of time and effort into the game. The notion that âeveryone raidsâ, is a retail construct implemented with the LFR tool.
Do you really think youâre going to be doing the long, lengthy, complex attunements for the latter tier raids quickly if you can âonly play for 5 hours per week?â. I think not. You may do them, but it will take time, time you say you donât have.
The second argument takes the form of "Everyone is being boosted in dungeons by Mages, so itâs OK for me to be boosted for real life cash".
Basically the same logic as âHe just stole from a shop, so itâs fine for me to steal from a post officeâ
No it isnât. âTwo wrongs make a rightâ is a classic logical fallacy.
Besides which, not âeveryoneâ is being boosted by Mages, in fact I suspect this is actually more of a minority thing than people admit. It mostly happens on these huge megaservers, stuffed with ex-PS players, and the ones doing it are very vocal, very spammy, and very obvious, but I still maintain that they represent only a relatively minor part of the population.
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How about a third position: I enjoy end game content and TBC zones, but did old world levelling so many times it now makes me physically sick.
I generally play the game between 10-20 hours a week, basically most of my free time given a job and family with 2 kids. I totally have time to churn out a level 60 every 2 months or so, yet my highest level alt is 18, beause i just cant bring myself to do all the grindy travel intensive slog yet again.
Yes the boost is not necessary, and of all the changes Blizzard announced so far it is the one i âlikeâ the least, but I understand why itâs there, and I fail to see any huge gameplay implications it will have, other than the slippery slope of âthey will add cosmetic shop and LFR nextâ.
I mean a botter who wants to âdominateâ the cloth/transmute market can have 10 clients running RIGHT NOW on any higher end pc, prepping however many lvl 60s he is willing to work with in tbc. The bots level themselves, donât you know? You just let it run in the background and have a lvl 58 in a week or whatever.
It is not a big deal to me. Blizzard not banning bots and gold sellers is infinitely bigger problem.
And even if we follow slippery slope⊠I intend to play TBC for next 2 years, then wrath for another 2 and be done pretty much forever. Just how many âgame ruiningâ retail features do you think Blizzard can cram in in 4 years. They might do some toward the end of Wrath maybe, but I wonât really care by then. Yes itâs sellfish, so what, I play this game for myself.
If you dont like slow and grindy quests in classic then youâre not going to like the slow and grindy quests in TBC