Why the Paid TBC Classic Level Boost Is Not Bad | A World Of Warcraft Rant Video

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Why the Paid TBC Classic Level Boost Is Not Bad | A World Of Warcraft Rant Video

The Background footage is only here for people that want to have something to watch while i’m rambling about the boost.
I know it isn’t top quality gameplay or pvp, but it is what it is.
Figured it might be better than to stare on a picture or on a black screen.

You can perfectly watch it as a Podcast form, play a game, do your chores and listen to the video. Let me know what you think and comment below, are you for the boost? or Against the boost. Tell me why so we can have an educated discussion around it.

My solution to the boost and how to implement it ( around 80% of the video ), is of course hypothetical and It could also never happen. But thought that instead of complaining and hate / love about something, we might aswell think about implementation for probably an already confirmed event.

Link to the video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2bI3Asg0fI&ab_channel=ThoGrey

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i started watching and stopped at like 1:30 :slight_smile: “…and trust me, the boost will stay”, oh i did not know a lead developer of tbc has a youtubechannel of 160 subs ^^
is there more to it than his opinion? I dont want to be mean, but i dont want to waste my time eather.

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I’m more of a classic guy tho, Shame you categorise me.
Also, Give solid arguments please.
Thank you for posting tho.

It is my opinion Khorus, didn’t say I had information.
If they do backpedal from the boost, then it would surprise me alot.
Please listen to the whole video, so you can also listen to my arguments but also my solution to this topic.

Unfortunate to hear that one phrase did make you stop watching the video.

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Well, most of the community seem to either support the boost, or are indifferent towards it (like me), it was announced at a major press/community event (making taking it back difficult marketing-wise) and it’s going to make Blizzard a metric fu_ton of money, so mhhhhhhmmmm…lets say I would be mighty surprised if they suddenly gave up on it.

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Weird take, I know already 10 people that didn’t play classic, that they will play TBC.
They will buy the boost because they don’t want to level into an Boosting meta azeroth. Where trying to get an ongoing ZF, Maraudon, SM groups are super rare.

I feel people are getting emotional on this subject and I understand, but people need to understand that there are alot of people that really don’t care about Classic lvling and they just want to do TBC stuff.

I swear to God, if They fix the dungeon exp and the boosting meta, I will for sure be against the tbc boost. But I can’t be against something that actually already exists in a Soft form. People already buy gold ( yikes) to get themself boosted to lvl 60. So why are people crying sweet maria about something that already exists and in a worse form.

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The only problem with boost is that its not available in this moment :slight_smile:

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The thing is, if you read alot of the forum ( wich is maybe a bad idea :slight_smile: ) alot of pro-boostarguments are opinionated people that eather dont have time, dont want to lvl or just dont care because the cant handle to play longer than 30 min without an reward ( dopaminejunkies ). Alot of them make wilde claims with no proof. But if you have another take, i would love to hear it. in the end iam interessted in solutions.
It just put me off, cus you cant know that, nobody does, so i thought the vid is just a opnion with no proof to justify the attitude of the speaker.
I had this enough here.

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oh no… that slippery… it is reasonable to think that this is going to happen, i agree, but we dont know :smiley: (i actully had to laugh here, f*ck me)

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I also don’t believe we will be able to change Blizzard’s mind because once a shark has the smell of a drop of blood, you know…

But regardless of the outcome I will do my best to voice my dissent towards the boost.

There is a good little tale that they told me when I was a kid, in my country of birth:
There was a little ant, walking on the road. A man saw the ant, asked him:

  • Where are you going?
    Ant responds:
  • I am on a pilgrimage to the kaaba.
    The man starts laughing and says:
  • You are a little ant, you can’t reach there.
    The ant answers:
  • Even if I can’t reach it, I will at least die on its way.

So, sometimes you just do your best and tell the truth, instead of just giving up and accepting the loss.
Almost all the anti-boost people know that no words or logical explanations or facts is bigger than Activision’s greed and lust for money.
But its good to try and spread the truth nonetheless for something you love and care (classic and its old mmorpg spirit)

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I honestly tried to watch it in a goodwill effort and I ended up stopping at the 11th minute.

Mate, these are not arguments, these are just selfish point of views. You spent an aweful lot of time going in circle, repeating what we already now, and ended up basically saying that people don’t want to put in time, but still want the rewards of time input.

Basically, people want to have their cake and eat it. Too lazy to put in time, but still want the rewards by spending money in-game, which ruins the value of the game.

Just like many other comments I’ve read, you see no further than your nose.

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I’m a “new player” that wanted to play Burning Crusade purely organically. The boost is going to cause issues everywhere - it will turn from “some changes” to “a completely new version with old content”. Blizzard wanted to target a player like me who has friends and wants to jump in playing with them. RIP.

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Watched the video, only “argument” in this video is “there is mage boosting in the game”.

WOAAAW! What an original and genius piece of information! None has ever thought about that before… How did you even find this out, this is such a great insight that none of the anti-boosters even considered!

It’s just sad man, very, very sad.
I’m not mad, just disappointed at this point.

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oh i was about to start the video, so its like he did not read the forum before he jumped into the debate ?
rarely saw you so “upset” :smiley:

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People can’t even do the most basic research man, it is just disappointing.
There are thousands of forum posts on EU forums, thousands on US forums, hundreds on reddit, many, many videos, by very famous content creators, and a lot of them has answered the issue with mage boosting already.

Here is a genius simple answer for this dude who managed to come up with this genius 400 IQ finding:

  • There is mage boosting? Then remove mage boosting instead of adding a paid boost.

Here is a genius idea how to remove boosting:

  • When there is a player with 10+ levels higher the dungeon mobs level, low level players can’t get any experience.

See, it was pretty quick and simple! Easy fix, I even wrote the fix for them so they can just copy paste this into the patch notes and release it tomorrow.

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There is nothing to add. Because you just said everthing to this. Thanks ma man.

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Now that’s one downvoted video on a channel that has no followers :smiley:

Your solution has no value or meaning as it’s not you that will be implementing it.

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I just took a look at the us, the de and the en forum. How on earth will blizzard find a solution that is not pissing of like 50% of players. We are harmless in comparison to the us form, there is an open war there.

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Your intuition to make content is good, you take a topic that is hot and make a video out of it, good thinking. But if you do this in the wow forum you need to have a “bulletproof” argumentation. You saw “A ballet of the Lvlboost” ? if not and you want to continue i can recommend that. Even thou he has a very strong position, he had very good and easy to follow reasons for it.

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instant boost is an awful idea, just to get our money, that’s it.

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I have watched your video. Here’s my response.

You make precisely six points in favour of the boost, and they are all variations of the same arguments we’ve all read many times in the various forum posts.

Your arguments all boil down to the following:

1 The game is already ‘different’, so adding changes such as boosts ultimately makes no difference.

2 The old world is already ‘ruined’ due to the boosting meta, therefore it does not matter if it is further ruined by the 58 boost.

3 It’s only one character, and therefore not a big issue.

4 It will ensure Outland has a large population on dead servers.

5 Some people don’t like Classic levelling, therefore it’s fine to allow them to skip it.

6 A very confusing straw man remark along the lines of “anti-boosters say they wanted Classic WoW only because there is no cash shop, but there are lots of other reasons for Classic WoW, therefore a cash shop is fine”.

1 You do not elaborate the way in which the game is ‘different’ from Classic, you simply say it ‘in passing’, without qualifying the statement.

Even if the game really is ‘different’, how does this justify a level boost?

They changed the formula for Pepsi a few years ago, but does that justify them putting rat poison into it?

2 Two wrongs don’t make a right. Even if the old world truly is ‘ruined’, ‘made empty’, or othewise affected due to the Mage boost meta how will making it even more empty via level boosts do anything except make the situation worse?

You have identified that a thing is broken, and your proposed solution is ‘break it more’.

3 It may be only one character, but there are hundreds of thousands of characters playing WoW Classic. The effect is cumulative. The problem with the boost is the boost itself, not the number of boosters.

4 It may ensure Outland has a large temporary population, but would this really be any different if there were no boost? We all know that Outland will be busy for a few weeks, maybe a month-or-so, before settling down, just like Classic.

Classic had no boost and the zones in the first few weeks were all busy.

On the other hand, what if the boost ensures that the Old World is empty? Not everyone uses Mage boosting - in fact I’m pretty confident that it’s only a minority of people who do.

5 Since when has catering to the lowest common denominator, and pandering to instant gratification been good game design? What good has ever come of this?

We all saw what this kind of thinking did to Retail. You admit that those who say they ‘don’t have time’ are talking bullcorn, and that what they really mean is ‘I can’t be bothered with this’. How is pandering to this mindset ever going to bring a positive result?

6 This one was very confusing. You seemed to say that people who campaigned for WoW Classic did so ‘only because there was no cash shop’, ignoring the myriad other reasons we wanted WoW Classic, of which no cash shop was a relatively minor thing on a long list.

But you then go on to actually list many of the real reasons we wanted WoW Classic, claiming them as your own reasons; and somehow use this to justify a belief that giving us a cash shop is not important, because our reasons for wanting WoW Classic were not as important as your reasons - ignoring the fact that we all share the same reasons.

Nope, it makes even less sense when I type it out.

So there you go.

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