Why there is no mythic gear in delves?

Would be nice to have Mythic gear in delves if you complete alone on high difficulty, it would actually show that you know what you are doing and the gear is well deserved. And, you don’t need to wait for 19 other people?

With this logic, just make some giga raid with 200 people and give giga myth track to them, if the amount of people is that important in getting good gear.

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Would be nice, but M+ players and Raiders would complain to no end.
They still think their endgame is the ‘real’ endgame. :sweat_smile:

I don’t really need mythic gear though; as long as delves up to the very last difficulty are doable with the gear you can get from it. If not; then it’s badly tuned and something needs to change one way or another.

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The only end game that matters to blizzard is raiding and PvP

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Why would we? Delves have scalable content so can be scaled to the appropriate level. :dracthyr_shrug:

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Yes.

I’m just scared that high end M+ players and raiders are going to want to ‘claim’ delves. And will complain that they’re too easy; not realizing it’s not scaled for THEIR ilvl and skill requirements.

I’m afraid Blizzard is going to give those players what they want; since that is what they’ve been doing for years and years and years. And by doing so, they’d ruin it for the players that delves are actually meant to be their own endgame for.

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nah, lets not make this mmorpg into a single player game

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Delves will be easier just by the fact the are soloable. People will generally just take the easier path. Which will kill other content.

If Hero gear was still good, I probably wouldn’t bother with M+ at all and only do Delves.

If it gave Mythic I would maybe do 2 resets worth of M+ for any rewards I wanted after I was fully Mythic geared.

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Is mage tower easy for you? They could make it hard, so people had more options for gear. As M+ player I am disappointed in new system, many other M+ share this opinion

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I only play Tank but back in SL when it came back I did it with Guardian, VDH and Monk, in that order. I didn’t play it at all in Legion.

It was hard but it’s not a fixed difficulty as gear makes it easier.

Even if Delves are harder than Mythic Raid it’ll still be an obvious choice for most people:

  1. No time wasted grouping up
  2. No noob who isn’t me ruining it
  3. No ragers messing up and blaming other people
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It doesn’t. You can go try now, though I don’t know how it is after prepatch

What is your reasoning for needing/wanting the highest ilevel gear in the game when you’re not doing any content that requires it? HC gear is enough to breeze through any content. And if you were progressing mythic raids, you’d be getting the mythic gear regardless.

This seems like a “just because I want it”. No real reason.

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I’ve done it on Guardian since DF and it’s considerably easier now than it was in SL.

During SL gear and consumables made a massive difference.

So that M+ players will have an option

Vicktor, my point still stands, you can create a challenging content for 1 player

They could, but it’s not content that was designed around every spec individually. What’s hard for a blood dk is impossible for a sub rogue as an example, and while they have bran I very much doubt NPC contribution can even that out, at least not on the first try.

I very much hope the next iteration of this type of content, though likely not in TWW, will go to max ilvl if delves are successful, but I get why they didn’t do it this time if they’re not confident in their ability to create a comparable challenge for all specs and all roles in all combinations.

Also the mage tower, besides maybe guardian druid, was not a mythic difficulty challenge either, and could be cheesed to be trivial with a decent set of timewalking gear.

I don’t disagree with you. I’m just saying why I don’t think they will give Mythic gear in Delves. The game has tons of annoying time wasting systems, they’re never going to give good gear in a mode that doesn’t have such system.

MT didn’t have such systems and it only gave cosmetics.

Hm, alright, didn’t know they created it that way.

Mage tower was an example of challenging content, you can make it more challenging

I still can’t wrap my head around why they don’t give a proper gear to M+ pushers and make them raid. It would be one of alternative options to them

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It would probably be very hard to balance. It would be far, far easier with some classes than others.

Anyway, it is a MMO, and it makes perfect sense that the best items come from group content.

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I think with the amount of variety in WoW specs capabilities solo, as well as the fact you can do delves with up to 5 players in any combination of roles, making the content an actual mythic level challenge is really really hard. At least if you make it easier then it’s a less of a problem if you under shoot / people find a combination that can cheese it.

The mage towers were vastly different levels of difficulty, with again only 1-2 really being close to what I’d say is mythic difficulty.

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M+ is also a group content

Yes and the vault for +10s award M track gear. M+ is also repeatable.

We can talk about potential ways to implement non repeatable m track gear from m+ completion but really that’s another thread.

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