What do you think we are charity ?
You don’t wanna know what I think you are.
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There already was an easy mode, it was called Layer 1.
But noooo, people want the big reward, for the low effort…
Some people really wont be happy till our bis setups are just mailed to us when a patch goes live.
That’s a great idea 
I loved it as well, had no problems with layer 8 and yh struggled at last boss and died but that just happens with bad luck on powers so no big deal to me.
But I do understand that certain classes struggled way to much so for them its just nice they can enjoy it more now, or at least get what they need…
I wouldn’t call it a “reward”, which I think adds to the problem. We were doing unbalanced/boring content, that could take up to an hour or more for an uninteresting “reward” all for the sake of it, because lets be honest, Soul Ash/Legendries don’t need to be tied to Torghast.
Might be stunned here, but i wouldn’t mind it being tied to raiding or Mythic dungeons
Ok, tried layer 8 Upper prenerf with my prot pala and udk friend. Me 202, he 195.
Got to floor 2 where we faced 625k HP mob called Empowered Imperial Consular who spammed Sin Bolt, Shadow Bolt Valley and Pacifying Dust which prevent us from interrupting him and also gain stacks with increasing speed attack and dps.
We tried to rotate our interrupts and stuns. This mob had more HP than any last bosses on previous level 7. After several deaths we finally got him to 30% and that time I had no cds left. He just destroyed me with his spammable attacks while I was unable to heal or cast anything coz of Pacifying Dust for 5 (!) seconds.
Is this called challenge in your opinion? This is overtuning without proper testing. Let any of Blizzard developers do Upper Reaches level 8 prenerf solo or with their colleagues.
I would really like to watch how they would handle with this Consular!
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It was tested, beta players just killed it.
That’s when you cc it instead of wasting an interrupt.
It was a challenge, you just didn’t manage to overcome it.
The changes are fully in and Torg is fun again. I was able to join with a group and we enjoyed the run.
Before when you grouped up, Torg would add extra difficulty for the more members you had in your team. It’s nice now though. More buffs, less overtuned mobs etc.
I’m starting to climb up Torg again after being hard blocked by the prior patch.
No, it’s called trying to do content while you’re 20 ilvls below what it is designed for, but as always, players whine instead of getting the gear needed to do it.
Gingi did layer 8 in 12min yesterday, pre nerf … amazing what a bit of gear can do.
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Amazing what a top mythic raider dps can do.
Dude, are you going to estimate of Torghast’s difficulty based on 1% of top mythic raiders?
What about other 99% playerbase who is not 7/10 mythic?
LOL. Said no-one ever.
Wasting all that time failing because of RNG powers, that’s fun to you?
Some people are easily entertained.
You can line of sight it. But I guess you’d rather tank it to your face because moving is too hard.
U couldn’t line of sight it what r u talking about?? I hit me through walls and any obstacle that was there.
Amazing that, that’s the part you pick out of my response, but let’s try again.
You were doing content at 20ilvls below what it’s meant for, and you’re shocked it’s hard?
The entitlement you must feel is truly staggering, just because content is added, or unlocked, doesn’t mean you should be able to clear it on day 1.
What ilvl would that be? We’ve had post in threads from people ranging ilvll 190 to 200 saying they get 2 - 3 shooted by the bosses. Any higher than that you’re entering the World first raider territory.
Think on the world first stream their highest was 209? i don’t think the average player would be hitting that anytime soon, heck maybe even this year.
If this content is 20 lvls harder than intented why is it even opened than?
For 1 % of mythic raiders with the best gear?
No logics behind it. When do they expect the rest of playerbase to complete layer 8 than, somewhere in 2021?
Hello.
Mort Regar layer 3 was perfectly doable for self sustain class with many interrupts.
At i lvl 151 as druid…
Mort Regar was not doabnle as mage unless you skipped area’s missing out on anima nd having less anima options available, no selfsustain… on … 171+…
You’re clearly wrong.
So I’m just imagining it stopped the cast when I ran around the corner? Is that what you’re going to go with?
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TLDR : A lot of players seem to be under the impression that is is mandatory content and have encountered a lot of issues with the difficulty. Blizzard took note of that and lowered the difficulty, regardless of it was “overtuned” or “too hard”.