I’ve read your post Brigante, and there are a few things I’d like to chime in on;
I’ve only seen annoyance over Soldier 76 being introduced as gay, and it mostly chalks down to poor timing (As I am pretty sure Blizzard was having some drama about their games, then came out with gay 76, almost as if they did it to distract from a different controversy).
It also doesn’t help that it’s insincere due to how they conveniently leave Tracer’s and Soldier’s homosexuality out of Chinese radars. Something no one seems to mention all that much, oddly enough.
Come on, you’re smarter than to paint it all black and white, that the only reason anyone would ever have a problem is because they hate gay people (Not saying some of them react like that because of that reason, but read my response to a different quote)
Probably because people are quite rightfully cautious and tired of having things be pushed onto them, that they’ve grown to react with a groan anytime they see stuff like this.
And honestly, I am just asking myself “Why?” more than anything with this T-Sexual Kyrian. Maybe it isn’t even a Kyrian wanting to be a boy instead of a girl, maybe it’s trying to transcend in to a level five Kyrian.
And it only seems like “We have ways to go yet” because T-sexuals (Piss off Blizzard, I am not going to use the currently approved word) did nothing but harm their chances of being taken seriously, after there were many instances of transitioners trying to force deviancy onto children, or just behaving really inappropriately to civilized society. There is only a minority of them now that actually behave like normal rational people.
Didnt even know he was gay. Not that i care tho. As for Tracer: Ohhh there was quite an outcry when it happened because their waifu was suddenly out of reach. Ofc this quickly died out because the people that complained were either flat out ignored or told to shove it.
Even if they released the backstory over there it would be censored before even going online.
Also that blizzard is doing certain stuff with a certain part of china is well known. Perhaps not as much as several other companies but its non the less questionable.
For Shadowlands it at least makes sense given how there are beliefs that in paradise you can choose to be what you want to be or look or whatever the fuss in certain religions. When i read it that there is a trans person in shadowlands i was like “K. So where are the class changes?”
Thats a generalization in itself. You just dont hear about because we dont care if someone makes a joke because its a motherfreakin joke. If it hurts your feelings despite not being directed at you (humour has no bounds. Dark Humour especially) and because the nitw… are being ignored as well because one cant side with their bull thats either taking stuff out of context or blowing things out of proportion. You basically have 2 fronts right now.
You can pretty much compare it to feminism (god how i hate this term. Call it equalism or anything similar already). There the proper people that actually want equality and then you have the femin… that dont want equality but favoritism and blabber about pay gap (which doesnt exist on the level they want it to exist. Based on factual data) and throw a tantrum the moment you disagree with them and even showing them as to why with evidence.
Basically the couple few bad eggs are ruining the bigger picture. Which is also because we tend to remember bad things more than good things (natural behavior of the brain). That they also scream the loudest also happens to be a massive issue.
Huh. While you didn’t hear much about Soldier, you heard about Tracer, me the opposite. Interesting how different trees yield different information.
That is why it is hard to take anything they release about homosexuality as sincere. Now if they were trying to push Tracer and Soldier as gay in China but were censored mid-transit, I would shrug my shoulders.
But considering their loyalties, it’s hard to not think they’re playing ball willingly.
Ah, so it is basically a level one Kyrian trying to transcend to a level five Kyrian.
I am choosing to believe that the denizens of the Shadowlands have no sex (Due to them being aetherial beings), so I can at the very least stomach any questline that might try to say “This girl Kyrian chooses to be a boy and now we will try to take you on an emotional roller coaster about it!”… Or just skip it because I don’t want another Summerset.
Yes, I too want equality. I wanna see women having equal hardships that men do, and have to pay alimony and child support in the west.
Oh, we’re talking about female injustice? Well, the Middle East is waiting for you.
And this is my point I am trying to make; These people do nothing but make normal people take everyone else less seriously.
But nah, it’s because people are just evil beings. Easier to say that than explore the nuance of why someone might have reservations with these groups of people.
I suspect Tracer happened before Soldier. I lost interest in Overwatch rather quickly and only bought it in the first place because a friend basically annoyed me until i bought it.
Agreed.
Whatever floats your boat. I will not much care about it personally unless its actually good and fitting, but i doubt it.
Oh that actually exists. The problem is rather that its still being the case that the woman is favoured over the man in most cases because of a mindset that makes people believe Mothers have automatically a better bond to their child than their father (even if that is often the case it doesnt apply all the time automatically). In my case my father should have won, but alas i was basically tricked as a child since it was my responses to my father in the first place that he intended to get custody of me and i didnt consider that (i was 6 or 7 perhaps) when i was asked if i want to be seperated from my mother. But from all logic and safety etc etc my father should have won.
Ye im not saying anything here as i would most certainly risk a permanent bann if i start to talk about middle eastern countries
The ones that dont wish to explore the reason’s are part of the bad eggs to begin with
I appreciate that we can be civil about this (As civil as we can get on a forum). I am sorry to hear about the custody part, hope you and your dad were able to keep in touch at least.
I can agree with that. At least you and I are able to discuss about what might make someone tick and why, without boiling down to throwing 'phobes at each other. Which as said, I appreciate.
All can work in storytelling but it is nothing without depth or the end emotion. If you tell a story or work on art, the message is everything.
So if you want diversity for its sake alone, you basically want more distractions. To make someone’s skin darker or to differentiate sexuality should never be political but always artistic.
Everything is a huge step in story and I think you shouldn’t seek out underpaid people with deadlines if you truly care for this topic.
Someone’s sexuality has nothing to do with being homophobic, I know some extremely homophobic gay people.
As for the topic, I treat this sort of thing the same way I treat it in real life, I don’t care, I don’t care whether you’re into same sex relationships, helicopters, fruit or whatever. I’m not interested in your sexuality in any way mean or form and would prefer it if you kept it to yourself.
It does in the context. If you read the posts I had a gay guy agreeing with a post of mine that wasn’t homophobic in anyway. When we where talking about a man on man relationship. Take the post in context not in a general sense.
Talk about reaching… No quoting me and taking my point out of context and trying to turn it into something else instead of actually reading why it was said is the issue.
Are you looking to debate yourself by adding fake nonsense? Like what’s your point exactly? You said that, not me. It’s like you’re looking for a fake argument on the forum and looking for something that’s not there.
Someone trying to lecture me on how to be while making a comment like this is kind of ironic. Most transgender people would get mad at you for using the helicopter and fruit meme and call you transphobic. So GL I guess. Funny thing is I didn’t have to change the context of your post to make a point, unlike you.
What’s funny is you’re actually doing what the point was of my post.
Randomly screaming “homophobia!!!” and looking for it when there is none there.
R U be transphobic? hur dur
Also the whole point you’re trying to make about a gay guy being homophobic, I guess you mean against lesbians?
Saying a gay guy is a better source of knowing what homophobia is compared to someone stright is being homophobic? lol! I don’t even know anymore. Guess you know more about being gay than a gay guy because you have gay friends? Logic.
How dare you sterotype a gay guy for knowing what it’s like to be gay!
Ah I see, you’re one of those special little snowflakes that wants to justify their existence by being offended by everything and anything.
I never accused you or anyone else of anything, if asking questions bothers you then that shows some sort of insecurity on your behalf.
I took nothing out of context, you’re the one doing that along with trying to justify your rather pathetic little crusade by making up meanings to my post that just aren’t there.
As for the notion that gay people can’t be homophobic, that’s just ridiculous and shows a remarkable lack of knowledge of the real world and an ignorance of how it works.
And getting mad at a simple joke is just plain childish, grow a thicker skin and grow up a bit.
One of the reasons a lot of people display homophobia is because of people like you that seem to think you’re some sort of special case and the general attitude you display that just irritates a lot of people.
You’re doing it again. Adding things on that wasn’t said, Where did I say someone gay can’t be homophobic?
How ironic once again.
Where did I say this exactly? A gay man can be hateful to lesbians. As I stated above. Making stuff up again.
This actually made me laugh so much. I don’t even need to comment for others to see why.
I’m not mad, and where was the joke? You’re telling people they are making homophobic comments while making a transphobia comment. As I said ironic. I’m a stright male, I didn’t get mad. I don’t need to be mad about something to call you out on nonsense you’ve said? Where you mad when you read my post?
I’m the cause of homophobia? What a bold statement, Care to elaborate more? You could honestly argue with yourself in a room.
it’s like this whole post was aimed at yourself lol!
So me being a stright male makes people hate gay people for something I say? ok! How unfair on them I guess? That says more about they people than me. If you’re going to hate on a group of people because of a forum post.
You made up the homophobic against lesbians bit, I never mentioned that, so any argument you have based on that is totally invalid.
You also made up the notion that I said people like you where the cause of Homophobia, I didn’t.
So all your prattling on is based on lies from your end in order to support whatever you’re saying. After all why let the facts get in the way of a noble cause such as the one you’re championing.