Wintergrasp is a shameful product

The state of WG is disgusting.I work as a Software developer and if i delivered something working as bad as WG I would be so f**king ashamed of myself that i would be doing what ever i can do fix it.

This is really just horrible. Private FREE servers provided better experience that you are doing now not for free.

I really don’t understand why don’t you at least reduce the amount of people per instance.
And the fact that it is taking so long for you to address it in any way is also awful.

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All the Gnomes everywhere agree with you…I spoke to them…FOR SHAME! Mr Blizzard!

Not even a sorry is aweful customer relations though(does this department exist?)

just those hotfix announcements

rings shame bell

WG = That time you went out for a meal and it took two and a hours to arrive at your table half cooked and half burnt…and they expect a tip

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We all pay 15 dollars a month and get the worst experience i ever had on that bg. Every Pserver did a better job at this. Its just a pure Lag Festival. Its such a shame that this company get away with the bullshiit they produce.

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Back in Wrath I played WoW on a laptop with integrated graphics and half a gig of ram, WG was smoother then.

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You’re saying to be a Software developer, yet you mention private servers…
I’m sure you probably love having your IP stolen too…

A business vs a lot of people with free time working on stolen IP is like apples and oranges.
Same with the artwork people crying " HIRE THIS GUY !!!1111one "
Not realizing the artists that work on a game work with deadlines and have several projects to complete vs 1 person that can spend whatever time on whatever project they see fit.

Not saying I don’t agree with how Wintergrasp is handled, but I’m sure they have looked at it as with the many other problems.

Most software is free

So you work for free?

I do physical labour.
Doesn’t change that almost every useful piece of software is free
Edit: Im guessing it’s the difference between consumer used software and business.

Pathetic mate

So you do physical labor for free…? Or are you one of those that saying working at a desk is not physically/mentally demanding? I did both, they’re both demanding in their own respective ways.

Using pirated software doesn’t mean the software is free, I paid for several instances of software where the paid version actually worked, worked better, or where the options I needed were absent.
Software developers also work for a business, you working in physical labor is also working for a business… doesn’t mean developing software shouldn’t get you paid.
Most free software also ask you to contribute something for the software, doesn’t mean you have to… but it would make their lives easier having to spend more time on it maintaining it.

Playing WoW on 512MB RAM with IG and playing WG smooth in 2008 … I find that very hard to believe.
(Been working for a well known computer manufacturer as hardware engineer since 2007 so I’m sure I could tell)

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I wasn’t talking about pirated software.
And if you don’t believe that then you weren’t around back then.
I even attempted to raid with that machine.

What are you even talking about. No one is saying they shouldn’t get paid. Quite contrary we are paying Blizzard for software and services which obviously are bad.

And yeah you could argue that the private servers were stolen IP (well they were) but without all those private servers and people wanting to play blizzard would never go for this classic servers which brought them a lot of subscribers and a lot of money

Bruh your comment looks like you are trying to defend small indie company :rofl:

Yeah Bobby Kotick with his 4 yachts must be crying over his stolen IP.

Over 1000 people working on wow vs a few guys working in the basement with better working WG than the original = your apples and oranges doesn’t make any sense

Yes they looked at it and did absolutely nothing. This lag problem has been a problem for a very long time and I just don’t understand why this small indie company cant fix it.
I guess yachts are more important than stable servers.

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Those guys freelancing in basements are not running servers with 27 mil players are they? No they’re not… not even remotely close…
They don’t have deadlines either, they don’t have restrictions, which a business does…
You should know this, if you even work that is…

Difference between business and spending free time on something, you don’t seem to understand this very well.
They don’t have to deal with massive congestion in any shape or form.
Please, come back when you know wtf you’re talking about.
And I’m sure if you developed games and had them stolen you’d be talking different.

If you want to get any kind of progress try the tech support rather than ranting about it on the discussions section.
Devs don’t read this.

All I’m saying is that they indeed need to get WG sorted, but I can enjoy the game perfectly fine without it currently.
If you want action, do something about it , call a lawyer…I don’t know…

Lets face it 27 million subs is a lot of income per month, of course you have overheads and various costs but that is a large amount of customers and they should hire to accomodate.

The average ticket time is going up almost 24 hours per day, so, why does it feel that Blizzard is not putting more effort or money into providing support, let alone bringing in temporary contractors or pushing back other deadlines to fix released content. Yes, contractors cost lots, yes, contractors won’t know the system, however, action is needed to fix a re-released product that is in a horrendus state.

Their customer support is a joke, there is no support. You have “24/7 support” in the form of web tickets which if it takes 14+ days to respond, is an utter joke.

Personally I love the fact that they couldn’t even apply a flying animation to the 3rd boss in UP. Really shows how out of touch their development team is, let alone the lack of testing.

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Those guys most likely have their own job with their own deadlines and have a very limited time that they can spend it. So the fact that multi billion dollar company cant provide better experience than those guys doing it in the free time is hilarious.

And sure private servers don’t have that huge amount of people but blizzard decided to make WG 120v120 on their own. While knowing that just pulling a world boss on retail causes the whole zone to lag has hell and yet they still went for this huge amount of people per instance.

It really cant be that hard to change the limit of people.

In some interview’s they said they read forums. And tech support…really ? My friend opened a ticked because of a missing item and it shows that the average response time is 10 days.

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Passion over profit.
Maximum effort comes from passion, which the people running those kinda servers often have.
ActiBlizz does not care about anything other than :credit_card: :moneybag: :money_mouth_face:
You’re not a valued costumer. You’re a wallet.

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Show me one Classic WoW server that has 27 MILLION players on it.
Just show me a single name of a server with that many players.
Go on.

Even if you add up all players of retail+classic we don’t even have half of this number. lmao

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Yeah, he pulled that number straight from there the sun don’t shine imo…