The map is fact proven severely unbalanced, so why isn’t this fixed? It’s not like it would require major efford or anything.
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+1 to this.
People have been saying it’s Alliance favoured for 15 years, and Blizzard has never done anything about it.
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Horde cave were moved further south with patch 2.4.0 - aka in BC
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Yeah would be good.
If this kind of AV style keeps going on, no ally will queue for AV in few months. would be the end for all people. A few changes would be good to keep the game and pvp alive. otherwise ally will only do ws and ab, soon…
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Blablabla your opinion =/= facts
They barely changed it in 15 years why would they change it now?
Because they did already change it. Just remember the Queue system. You cant see any numbers anymore, some spots i know from the early days have walls…
It is classic, not vanilla and if this kills the game, sure they will adapt as they did on other things like you can kill a player 10 times till you get no hornor anymore (before it was 5).
All this together would just improve the game.
Agree, AV is already dying. Guess few mounth later AV will be for rep only. AB/WSG for primades. So it’s gg if no changes.
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The thread title is a logical phallacy that does not support your argument to make this change…
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Doesn’t really matter as long people get what he wants to say.
IMO, there are a few changes all people would benefit from:
- Do level 60 AVs only. You will eliminate all these no 60’s that are just farming in Cave.
- When you queue, give people with exalted Rep an extra option to just queue with exalted people. This way, there wont be this mess where 1 half goes to galv, the other goes to IB and all just die.
- Since there are so many “invisible walls” already, block all backdoor options to the base. I know most alliance player dont even know there is a way to backdoor the horde base but it is way more difficult than the backdoor to alliance base.
- Block spots at Stormpike GY where you can farm people who spawn from places that are above so melee classes can’t reach them.
- Move the spawn point back to where it was moves during TBC.
All these changes would make it a way more fair AV for everyone and peole would not stop queueing AV on longterm. Even today, Alliance has some queuetime on AV already. And the less Alliance is playing the less Horde is playing, too so keep in mind that all have to benefit from a Battleground.
#NoChange
Why would you want to change the map when it’s done in TBC ? You can’t wait TBC ?
They changed the queue system because it allowed disruptive gameplay and serious unbalance that was a major issue for the game. Spawning Horde south is not a major unbalance, it’s unbalanced, but not major. Having 40 man-premade full discord level 60 full gear full conso full eng full healers VS 40 desorganized players with level 58 and AFK’ers, is a major unbalance. No Change is all about common sense.
And if you think AV is dead, kek. Wait next week and you’ll see.
#NoChange is killing it.
I see that every week que of horde side slowly increase.
I see that most of alliance are farming rep. All HK farmers at AB/WSG.
Guess we will get AV soon, like we have in retail now. I hope i’m not right but we will see.
Whatever you do with AV map people will complain and say it is to their factions disadvantage. Instead of changing the map blizz should just make factions spawn randomly north or south without any change so we get to be equal.
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You forgot “Make Horde base NPCs (do they even exist?) agro like Alliance base NPCs”.
PS: Is the situation in AV still so bad for Alliance? Haven’t played since AB was out. But I remember my last week, Alliance were doing much better
You forgot to mention one more change. To place Horde base NPCs IN THE BASE. Near graveyard and towers.
Every time I am in Alliance base, it feels like raiding. I am constantly killed, oom and in combat (can’t drink).
Wouldnt you know it, #nochanges is killing the game. Water is wet.
We will go down the exact same route if Blizzard does TBC, then Wotlk, then Cata…
Another cool fix would be that you limit the amount of same classes for one BG. I get so many warrs in one BG, its insane. 7 or 8 Warrs on WS… what do you wanna do? xD
It’s getting worse day by day. Yesterday I got into a group that wanted to stay in spawn cave until game was over just to get the mark without doing anything -.-
Changes need to be done, fast!
Well AV premade is no longer a thing , now horde pugs face premades in 10 or 15 man bgs like alliance pugs . Before , horde pug got to face alliance pug often when AV premades existed. 