The game is moving way to fast for the majority of working people / adults. Between the 3 days raids the inflated price of gear and consumes and the playerbase being what they are everyone I know who was playing have stopped.
With that in mind and in the spirit of trying new things and discovering the results do we ever think we will see a server running the game mode but at a semi reasonble rate? 5-7 month patch cycles rather than the 4 week ones we have been getting on the main servers?
Ok, but for who ? You and the other 5 dads withe 30 kids and 15 mins a month to play ? Not trying to be mean, but even the casuals have a well geared char in SoD. If not 2.
There was not much to do in p2 anyways, what is it that you would be doing for 5-7 months ? And dont get me wrong, im sure Blizzard would love to milk you for 7 months for subs. But… maybe its time to accept the game has to be made for a certain % of the players. And the 5-7 month per phase is probably the 0.01% of the population at this point.
5-7 months might a bit too much for phases with too few content.
I would rather say 3-4 months.
That being said, I too can summon random percentages and decide that you are part of the 2,75% of players rushing everything faster than everyone, only to get bored also faster than everyone else.
What you said to the OP was actually mean. You might not even knew it, but the imaginary dads with 30 kids probably help you with getting your BIS, farming rep or clearing some quests at some point.
Be thankful to have many various kind of players here. If half decide to leave because they can’t keep up with the pace, while feeling depised by younger ones (or simply unemployed adults), then finding people to clear content or enter in battlegrounds might take slightly more time.
Hey m8 , this is A seasonal game. Doubt this will be going on for much longer. Reason phase 3 hit so fast is that they have seen the Numbers dropping.
Wouldnt invest to much time and effort in this , if cata is a success as I assume it will be this will die out pretty fast.
As it stands now pvp is broken without salution ! Horde racials are to powerfull and with the news coming about future pvp and rep rewards this will become real bad.
Just check out shaman buffs again , and for future raids people can almost «buy weapon skills». So the things alliance had an advantage on like pve is gone with horde getting salv/kings and Shaman on roids.
Alliance has for the most part stopped q for Bgs and it will only Get Worse. If you think phase 3 came fast , phase 4 will pop Even faster couse of the imbalance!
My guild went from almost 3 raid teams to where we have to pug for our 1 team from time to time.
I have been raid logging couse of guild last 3-4 weeks
I agree with some parts you say but not all.
yes the situation for alliance is very rough right now. But they might fix racials. We dont know what lvl 60 will look like. Phase 4 will be the big and long phase which they undoubtedly will put more resources into adressing balance etc.
cataclysm will probably not be a smashing success at all because cataclysm is where “classic” ends and “retail” begins. Cata is not classic. Therefore many of the classic players have no interest in it.
SoD is a great success, but p2 was very lacking in content. P3 will likely be a much longer phase because it is actually jam packed with content and alot of the p2 content stays relevant in p3 as well which adds to the endgame content loops.
But yes alliance racials need to be adressed. That much is crucial.
Well cata didnt kill wow its wos WOD to be honest. Well issue will be Even Worse with A weekly lockout. Even more time in between where nothing is left to do.
Will just be raidlogging once A week instead of twice A week.
And if the other option is to pvp as things are atm , game will die real fast. And pugs will struggle Even more to form and clear it.
But Yeah something needs to be done with balancing for the future. Alliance pve racials without weapon skill on most melee going human without an on use dmg buff is A joke right now.
The open world event in p3 is a pve event. there will be tons of things to grind. New pvp gear. new rewards in stv. Better dungeon gear.
And hopefully if the pvp balance is not totally effed, then we can just do the most fun thing there is to do in the game which is PvP.
I am not worried about content drought at all honestly. If you are purely a pve’er then yeah I guess I get it. but then again i dont really know why you would play SoD if you dont like pvp.
Im mostly A pve and im playing on A pve server. But like my pvp aswell, issue with Rogue this phase as most melee is kinda bad in group pvp as you prob know.
And i dont Get to 1on1 in world so STV is A dot/burst party. And doesnt help vs 60/70 % orcs either as A rogue!
To top it off rogue is getting pretty punished couse of armor/Poison res in gnome. And the Runes are pretty luckluster.
PvP unballance hits Even Harder as A melee so stopped q Ab aswell for some time
Might be time to reroll then honestly. I was stubbornly sticking to warlock too. But then I made a shaman and the game got real fun real quick.
Nah , will be sticking around to see how it goes. If guild falls apart as it did last 2-3 weeks doubt we will manage to Get A 20 man together.
Either way gl on phase 3 for u !
Fair enough brother. Hope it works out for you. Gl to you too!
Sure, and then im sure a legion of people will post here telling me that im in the minority, and that the game is rushing too fast. And then you would gladly see Blizzard slow it down for the next phase.
Where as in reality they did slow p1 down by a lot, and arguably people quit due to boredom, so this time they had to speed it up. So by that logic alone im quite sure the guys who want longer phases are the massive minority.
But I do agree, I dont have exact numbers, I am just going off my gut feel.
100% wont be. And im saying it as someone who is waiting for Cata. Classic players are generally quite bad. Cata is a big stepping stone from Wotlk and in my xp, most Guilds were drowning on LK till the nerfs came.
Again, I am not flaming. I think Classic should be easy and simple. Its the only way to retain a lot of players who quit in multiple stages of the game and never really progressed their skillset in the game.
As for the rest ? Wont turn this into a Rogue topic. I said what I said above for a reason.
Can’t agree tbh…
I am a SUPER casual player. I have 1-2 days per week to play for a few hours and I’m already out of things to do in phase 2.
Okay, i don’t really have any max lvl alts… but my main is beastly af.
There’s no version of WoW where i could compete with the top end players but SoD. It’s extremely casual friendly and at a slow pace
If they make phases with actual content, sure, lets have longer phases.
If it’s anything like phase 1 and 2, two months seem perfect 
Have you ever considered single player games?
We had 2 months to do 25-40, where XP was boosted with 100% in additional to about 1,5 “free” rested levels that came with the sleeping bag quest (not to mentioned the amounts of XP on gets in a simple 20 min BFD every 3 days)
If you did any work at all during Phase 1, then many things like levels, professions and runes could be started and done from the 30th November or whatever - that was 5 months ago…
I had most things done in Phase 1 on my main character, and a few days into Phase 2 professions were topped, I was 40 and I had the gear I needed from STV - then there was only a raid every 3 days?
What am I missing here? I also have a family and a full time job, but a few weekends and afternoons gets it done without stress, especially seeing Ive struggled to find anything relevant to do between raids last 4 weeks.
Going in to this, you must have known a few things:
Where during your 10 min every 10 days didnt you catch on to the fact that this perhaps wasnt the game for you? Or the fact that you have to accept that with you limited time, you cant expect to be “in tune” with the head of the curb.
The game is moving as fast as it should IMO. The amount of content in each SoD phase is smaller than that in regular Classic phases, whence the reduced phase lengths.
They want us to play alts but they don’t give us time to gear them up.
Kind of paradoxical…
Even though I can’t stand P2 PvP, the phase could’ve easily lasted an extra month.
Not a fan of what has just been said here.
The so called “head of the curb” is obviously a minority of players.
It’s not rocket science to figure out how slower it takes to find people in the middle of the day (raids, battleground, regular quests or to sell whatever you have to sell).
It’s an whole another story at the end of afternoon and weekend.
Would you want all these “extra players” to leave the game because “the head of the curb” has decided to set the pace and random rules ?
Would you want these “extra players” to leave the game because they can’t keep up with it and read this kind of nonsense ?
Would you want this “it takes more time to do anything in working days” to be a permanent state ?
Classic happened because MANY players wanted it. And many were parents, with jobs and whatever else.
You can’t dump these players and say “oh you don’t have time for it ? goodbye then”.
No one is asking for auto LFG or whatever similar stupidity (please no). People are just asking for some extra weeks, nothing less, nothing more.
Maybe the “head of the curb” should actually curb it’s enthousiasm after all and start by being thankful we don’t all have to stick with Retail only in 2024.
If you don’t have time to play its simple Dont play! Let the rest of us non dads enjoy our time as you did when you were younger.
Where is that inflation? I haven’t seen it.
Free action potions, the main staple consumable for p2 PvE, is the exact same price it was in p1. Idk what your definition of inflation is, but if the price of something stays the same over time, that is definitely not inflation.
BoE’s are about the same price as p1 too, apart from half a dozen BiS items that are now available like the Gut Ripper, but even epics like the Staff of Jordan have been selling for around 200g (at least on my server), which is roughly the same price good blue BoE’s were selling for during p1.
So what actually has seen its price inflate?