WoD was better than BFA!

Yes, because WoD had:

  • Great PvP, alt friendly and not forced to PvE

  • Great Raids, WoD raids were easier than BFA

  • Lore, sure it has a bad lore but BFA still had worse

  • Dungeons were great and easier than BFA

  • Pathfinder WoD was easier than BFA

  • Content: Sure it had less content than BFA but it still had great dailies to farm golds

But what did BFA have?

  • Very Bad PvP in BFA because of Azerite grind for many months and ultimately forced PvPers to become PvErs. BFA is stated as the worst PvP expansion

  • Raids: BFA introduced the worst raiding expansion they were too difficult, many guilds gave up and disbanded and Ny’alotha is one of the hardest raid tier ever (Also it explains that RWF spend 14 hours or longer to finish it in mythic) also all of BFA raids belong top 10 worst raid tiers

  • Also content were more difficult than WoD, as you can see Mechagon and Turtles’ WQs for example

  • The grinding reps was so hard, no rep points by doing leveling campaign and main 120 lvl campaigns (War Campaign)

  • But how bad the dungeons were? Tol Dagor had massive bugs and was never fixed until the end of the expansion, neither the end of Shadowlands. Also again, Kings’ rest

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When you first point is ā€˜had better pvp’ you KNOW it was a bad expansion.

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Fun is subjective

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They were equally annoying to me.

As for the rest… well I don’t care for dungeons/raids though I did enjoy the WoD ones more because I actually did them and I even got the legendary ring with LFR. I loved my garrison, levelling (though the rewards from it were rubbish), all of it really bar the huge content gap but I just played GW2 instead. In BfA I quit for 6 months due to the story lock with LFR Dazar alor for Horde. It was a matter of principle. Came back when they removed it.

So yes I agree, I liked WoD more than BfA and I’d happily do it again… except the bloody pathfinder.

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Yes, the only easiest pathfinder was Legion and I had so much fun with grinding WQs

Also grinding golds from WoD was great

Honestly I hate any and all pathfinders. Sure make us do exploration and loremaster of the place once but the world quest and rep farms were ridiculous. I’m happy nobody has to do them ever again! Shadowlands was a happier way of doing it but nothing compares with being able to fly straight away. I love Dragonflight, I love flying around and if I want to slow down I just go on my ground mount.

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I agree with you that Pathfinders should never exist, also flying zereth mortis too (Rares became harder to spawn and find)

Also that“s correct, flying in SL made easier in 9.1, but in 9.2 made harder

It“s faster than rest of the zones

I hope we get normal flying in the Dragon Isles

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You beat my heart so hard

This comment is funny and so is your character name, so I believe this needs further explanation.

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I really liked WoD. Chill exp.

The worst ever. But I liked the theme of that exp and especially the zones.

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WoD was great looking at what it had. The things that made it ā€œbadā€ were the cut content and focus on the garrison. People were also disappointed with the lack of custimization but that is partially their own fault by making assumptions of what they could do with it.

I dissagree, BFA had flaws, but it was more fun that WOD, which was dead expansion pretty much. Bfa had One of the strongest patches ever 8.2, Had funny stuff like corruptions- obtaining them was not fun part due to rng but otherwise it was good. What did WOD had to offer? Nothing pretty much, Challenge modes? You did it once for portals/achievements and thats about it, no replay value. Garrisons, haha, ye collecting gold from mission on like 10 characters was such ā€œfunā€. Basicaly Only raids were Good in WOD, Pvp wise good maybe too havent play much rated PVP during that expansion.

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I started playing during MoP and BfA is the first exp where I took a break for about a year. Imagine BfA with separated pve and pvp gear like now, with only 2 possible ilvls in pvp like now (honor and conquest) and no rng corruption. It could have been a great exp.

Not forced-mandatory content ie chores, no pve for pvp, etc. All I did in WoD was pvp, duels in durotar (that was the last time I saw players in durotar), wpvp and some irrelevant side fun stuff. And that’s basically wow for me. But I understand why many players didn’t like WoD.

The garrisons were ok imo. But even if I didn’t like them, they weren’t mandatory, so they can’t bother me. It’s a shame that they cut that planned content, but who knows, maybe one day if WoD classic comes out they’ll add that cut content :slightly_smiling_face:

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On its own, however, WoD has contributed nothing to PvP. Except, of course, that many classes have been stripped of a lot of skills. And Ashran. lol… Ashran.

BFA had at least brought in warmode and revived world pvp in the most possible way.

Are we now facing a dark iron civil war in the thread?

No, that would be inappropriate.

But think about it, brother. With BFA, we became playable.

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But you rejoined the Alliance back in cataclysm :wink:

I personally would argue that not only BFA >WoD, BFA was probably my favorite expansion ever too, even over Legion and Wotlk. But before shooting out and loud ā€˜ā€˜Heresy!’’, let me explain my point of view about it in a couple of points.

  • BFA had 5 raids, and i disliked only one of them, the very first Uldir, another is my all time favorite (Crucible of Storms). BFA raids offered enough of a challenge all over the raids to keep the heroic difficulty relevant, while offering an interesting Mythic mode. I have never seen the addition of more complex strategies on bosses to be a bad thing for the game and always seen it as a natural evolution, based on the fact the community is overall better mechanically than it was in the first few expansions.

  • As someone who play quite often, and who like relaxing with a little session of farming while drinking my coffee in the morning before going on more hardcore grounds, the Azerite farm was just a perfect fit for me, as it was helpful compared to my now Gold&Mount farm (That still include BFA content).

  • Even if i did start running MM+ in Legion, it’s BFA with the season 2 affix than made me really like this content to the point it even is my primary content in Wow today.

  • Legion did hurt very badly my suspension of disbelief over the Warcraft universe, retconning everywhere to make the Broken isles be a proper expansion wide diversified zone and desacralizing so many items and heroes in the process of giving Artefact weapons to the players. The Pre-patch of BFA felt first like a really sour taste joke but if i have to point out the moment i restarted caring about the story, it was there. And storytelling-wise, BFA is the best Blizzard ever done (if you had the big picture by playing both Alliance and Horde)

  • BFA did not feared to experiment. Some things were pretty meh, others were very nice, making each season unique it it’s own way and always giving something new to play with. Never have we felt such a difference in gameplay in-between seasons, even when we had the Tier sets. This is something that missed since, and DF will not make exception if they continue the way it is since SL. Playing kind of the same way during a whole expansion is a highway to boredom in my opinion.
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They were both bad. I dont see your point. Every expansion after wotlk was bad except legion, that was only half bad. DamagecontrolFlight seems pretty decent compared to what we used to get.

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