World of Declinecraft

If you belive a word he say, I have a bridge to sell you :roll_eyes:

I keep hearing this :smiley:

I joined an m+(casual raiding guild ) at the start of this expansion …put effort upgrading gear etc…etc…

M+ starts … hey guy wanna do some m+ silences…
3 weeks …the same things .

Raiding , starting Heroic … reset day we are making groups , whisper for inv… Whisp the leader…answer…we already have 3 mages , so just wait a few weeks .
Meanwhile i was 626+ ilvl , and the other were 612-615 ilvl … (i was there for the experience )

So ending …yes join a community ~!

Now look at this . I start playing Lineage Reborn . Entered a Clan . i was low lvl 17 lvl . The help provided from the players of this game is thousand time better than the toxicity wow-retail offer .

20+ people online in my Guild . login . G. evening …nothing . Entered Discord …hey guys (Just 1 replied )

Lineage reborn … Hello Guys… Sup mate, how are you and basically a living Community .

So keep saying join a community and is nice …what community ?? The same as yours that you are doing m+ with just 4 other specific players ?? Sorry mate but for me the anti-social experience in wow has been on of the best at becoming anti-social .

There is a reason why why wow doesn’t attract any new players and is only on decline .

Yep like Tsjoh : Join a community …looking on his profile …8 dungeon m+ same people :smiley:

Then in your case, as I understand it, maybe I would consider playing different game.

My 8 highest keys on my main are done with a friendsgroup i can play once or twice a week with, you only looked at those. Good job…Not. Even on my main i have pugged quite a lot. But i also run 2 alts which 99% plays with communities or pugs.

The communities i mean is not a guild. I mean an M+ community like No pressure, Chill Streak, Dungeon Dojo, etc etc etc. They are linked here on the forums many many many times.

Look at this guy;
Psjohly - Character
Does this look like just 5 players to you? Yes, join the same communities as i am playing with. YES.

So yes again; join a community. You heared it apparently before and never did it.

its a disaster.
in m+ or other contents i had the same problem.
everyone just wants to get carried so they want super high end item level for everything,

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Probably world of unsub-craft if i can’t just plug & play and have to spend extra effort like that.

WoW is fun, But not THAT fun to put that much effort into it,

I wanna play when i wanna play, People ard not always available and i don’t really want to set up a static time for people to gather for M+.

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Also for you; communities.

I’m a 2700 io tank and have to pug all my keys because I can’t find a decent guild due to most of them being just…dead. quiet? and being the new guy it just sucks as someone pointed out in this thread.

People in retail are extremely asocial and don’t really want to talk or anything in pugs in most cases.

I have tried one of the M+ discords but its also dead or the bracket of rio is too good for ppl doing lower keys or too high for sweats. Not really sure what to do and I won’t pretend I am great at socializing either with stranger danger.

Sadge ok, crys silent

When Soloq M+ for the loner folk?

Cause blizz add shuffles and later blitz on a rated system thats entirely dependant on participation separately in each of the modes. So, even if we have friends and will to play something else, we cant cause there is no progress to be made in severely deflated modes that got abandoned, not untill blizzard reworks their rated system. I imagine op has this problem with the soloqs as he seem to be PvP. But he could had mention it of course.

I mean you dont have to become best friend with someone to play more than once with them? I just usually add people i enjoyed playing with either over personality or preformance (im pretty casual myself these days, so meta and all of that stuff is irrelevant to me).

This has a suprisingly high sucsess rate in both pve and pvp since many players might not be social, but if they enjoy your preformance aswell, they would most likely wanna play with you again, so people should really stop overcomplicating things :slight_smile:

Atleast on pve ppl can still play the game with their friends and the like in group. Soloq for m+ wouldnt affect teams and their seasonal progress either as m+ system doesnt care of participation like pvp din wows system, so ppl in pve are lucky in that regards.

Regular 2s and 3s has deflated for sure, not really touched pvp last 2 months due to 2 irl friends returning, but last time i qued 3s with placements around 1800 in 3s with some pve friends, que times themselves didnt seem to bad for constructed arena tho? And for those only chasing rewards like mogs etc for pvp has prolly swap over to blitz since its been crazy inflated since day 1.

Finding arena partners in lfg for regular arena has surely become harder than before, but it’s quite natural since the playerbase is spread across more brackets, so it’s still more about how picky people are when inviting someone, instead of giving more chaps a chance, and simply ask those you enjoyed playing with if u can add them. How someone can say you “cant do any content for hours” is beyond me

Theres no point play arena anymore in the current rated system if it rely entirely on participation.

I agree about that and they get toxic often when not carried good enough. I dont even do m+ anymore SL s1 was last good m+ and was awesome for my resto drae lady.
I dont even want to talk about healing m+ after SL how it startef in DF

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To be fair, if playing an MMORPG is not to your liking, then perhaps a MMORPG might not be your genre.

Generally a good advise but not fitting for me.

I really like wow I play it since shortly after naxx release it’s my favourite game.

I just struggle with finding connections to other over the net. Irl I am a really outgoing person but if o can’t see you I have problems.

Today I mostly do solo content but not exclusively.
I could go find a new guild but for the time being I am stuck in the memory of very good guild that and I am fine with that

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People would rather make enemies than friends.

Look, I’m there with you. As a dps I spend 3 x more time queuing than actually playing.

We actively choose to pug. I have a guild but for some reason I enjoy playing with strangers.

I accept the World of Queuecraft. The question is, do you really?

Where did anyone say that?

Not really? If it wasn’t for BGB, me and my friend would have quit a while ago.

Besides the point though. Why do people feel the need to join LFG / BGB / BGs / Arena when they just go AFK. Queues are shambles because of this.