The lot of you have really been arguing the toss about semantics for the past 150 posts.
“Winning” is subjective in wow and each person here is bending the meaning to suit their narrative.
If you really want to be honest about it, nothing much has changed so if you think wow is p2w now, then it was 12 years ago. You could buy carries and pilots back then to “win”. You can now.
Theres a couple of things that have changed, theres a lot of moving parts afterall.
The token came in. All this has really done is legitimise something that was going to happen anyway and put some of the $ in Blizz’s pocket, thats not a bad thing.
Times have changed, people are more willing to pay for shortcuts now, perhaps its a generational thing or just an evolution of the way things are.
People are less willing to put in effort to make groups. They seem to think they just need to click “apply” and its their god given right to be accepted. They put no effort into making friends with likeminded people and just screech when they are declined.
This is more visible now. Sometimes things get a critical meme mass and then its all people can talk about. Seems like this is what has happened here.
All in all, I think Blizz need to spend some effort to stamp on this hard to return some of the integrity to their game.
Also Blinkrush, sometimes its better to keep quiet and let people think you’re an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
You misrepresented my argument three times while providing false evidence to an argument that you made up but implied that I made it when I didn’t and then tried to guilt-trip me into admitting being wrong when it’s a fact that you had a multitude of arguments against people who were against multiplexing including me and the automation argument.
That bad huh.
I’m so paranoid when naming my characters that it might mean something unintentional in different languages or as a slang, I always run it through google, translate and urban dictionary a bunch of times just to make sure.
It’s like talking to a brick wall. Although brick walls don’t make things up.
How do you think Blizzard can do that? If they ban boosting in all forms it’s most likely going to become like the gold buying scenario we had pre token. No doubt it will deter some but others who just want some cosmetic or curve will still seek out boosts.
And this is the dishonest argument people like to make when they don’t want to be actually honest.
P2W is solely determined by whether the game has a legal way/a system that allows people to essentially swipe their card and funnel their money into the game which then they can use to buy pretty much anything they want in the game.
12 years ago WoW didn’t have such a system, but it gained such a system in form of Token in 2017, which means WoW wasn’t always P2W, but it becomes P2W with the introduction of Token.
Like I said, p2w “definition” is determined by the outcome people want to achieve in this debate. You don’t get to decide the definition and proclaim everybody else wrong.
I’m not going to get sucked into a back and forth with you. We disagree, lets leave it at that.
And this is factually wrong since what people want is superseded by devs and their game design so you can’t P2W if devs don’t provide you with a legal money funnel to enable you to P2W.
Blizzard provided that funnel in form of Token which btw is also only one step from direct RMT.
On another hand, games are being dubbed P2W only when they allow the use of real money to buy something in-game e.g. more powerful gear, and Blizzard and their Token allows exactly that which only furthermore proves that WoW is P2W.
So, if you want to be dishonest and keep avoiding evidence while hiding behind vague assertions and insults then go ahead but it still won’t change evidence and facts.
