Then you’ll be happy for 10 mins. And then the wolves are dead and you’ll be bored. 
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I can do hard things just don’t add timegate! I can do all of that in one week, and then put game on shelf. Just let me do it how I want to.
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Heroic Dungeons and raids are you friends then, because those avenues of gameplay have no timers or affixes whatsoever.
Just because you don’t like M+ doesnt invalidate the content.
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Who said anything about a timegate on the stream?
What makes you think you know anything about what I’m happy with? You are very wrong.
I was happy since I joined in Cata all through Mists. Only with The Prune - whish started in Draenor, not Legion or BfA - did I start to lose interest in pursuing anything.
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I had hopes they would learn that having too many systems in the game has made it unpleasantly complicated in Battle for Systemroth and wouldn’t commit the same mistake in Shadowlands.
Maybe they can change their mind if there’s overwhelming negative feedback.
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He literally said that you will do that covenant things every day! Have you never play Blizzard games?
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And those expansions were also FULL of systems. So your argument doesn’t make any sense, frankly.
That’s you who’s jumping to conclusions.
It’s an mmorpg. They WANT us to WANT to log in every day and play.
I seriously don’t get your problem mate.
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No system was a daily occurance and was needed for progression.
No, it’s far simpler.
I should be able to play what I want, however much I want, when I want. I should not be rewarded more for playing 2 hours each for 2 days as opposed to 4 hours 1 day and 0 the next.
And right now, that’s not the case at all. Especially not in BfA.
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In all fairness, I thought that too when I created a character in WoW Classic the first time.
Just the core WoW experience without any silly bells or whistles attached.
WoW on the rocks, so to speak.
And I was so bored.
Having played WoW for 15+ years, I cannot go back to more simple, more basic, or more condensed gameplay.
It is boring. It is unfulfilling, and for a lack of a better term; dumbed-down.
I need all the extra complexity that various gameplay systems add. Even if they just add more hoops you need to jump through in order to progress, then I want that. I have more fun jumping through a handful progression hoops than a single hoop.
I do not want a Retail WoW experience that has all the meat picked off the bone, so it’s an imitation of Classic WoW.
No.
I want stuff. And I want lots of stuff. A fun to play character alone, that is not enough. I want a world that is rich, complex, engaging, diverse, and crammed-to-the-brim-with-system as well.
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Did you listen to what was said on the stream?
Because it sounds to me like you didn’t.
There will be many OPTIONAL systems. That you CAN do.
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Were you forced to do those systems? Was everything timegated like now? Were there 500 world quests you had to farm everyday otherwise you miss reputation? Stop pretending you don’t understand what people mean…
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Guys and girls don’t you think this expansion will have too much diffrent systems, and will be too complicated to new players, and also take too much effort to do alts?
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Ment to be an answer to this.
You say this same before BFA beta and now we got worst expansion!
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Yes, I got that. My reply stands.
Also; yes they were actually ‘needed’ and a lot of them were a daily chore.
I think you’re forgetting about many things in the past, my friend.
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Most of those systems improve gameplay. And also there is nothing wrong with systems imo. Ppl are now complaining and have been doing since the start of bfa that there are to Lilly’s different thing to do.
All this seems very cool. And a lot to do on my own time on my own pace without simming. Awesome!
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Im not talkin about time gating or anything else.
I’m only pointing the ‘‘I have irl’’ argument.
Like…Wow,you have irl,you are so special!
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I think it’s too early to tell if the systems are good or bad. But i agree, there’s just so many of them that it feels really overwhelming.
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